A few questions for neo-classic (80s/90s) Fiat (Alfa, Lancia, Fiat, etc) owners.

I used to own a GTV6 back in the day, before Fiat returned to the US. Support for that car was OK and I had to do similar part searches like I do not for my non-USDM Nissan at times. However I lived in Chicago then and had a large enthusiast community there to help me with the car.

With Nissan that company offers near zero support for their older vehicles. They MAY produce or have stock of some classic parts. However I mostly have to rely on aftermarket and importing parts from Australia or the UK. If it's any better than this that is an improvement. With Japanese cars if you don't buy something that is popular you are pretty much screwed where it seems BMW for example supports ALL their products.

I am going to be importing a sport sedan type car from Japan, heavily leaning towards a JZX90 Toyota (VERY good support for this) however I do want to get back into europeon cars and have been looking at the 155 Q4 so i'm curious about a few things.

1. Have the new Fiat/Alfa dealers been decent sources for OEM parts for classic vehicles?

2. Does FCA provide any support for their classic vehicles? Like could I get simple things like trim pieces? (Japanese companies mostly do NOT)

3. Anyone here familiar with Delta Integrale (same drivetrain as this car) or 155 and know of how parts availability is?

Feel free to make any comments if you have anything to add.

I have not tried shopping the dealer for my 124, but I doubt they offer parts for it. Fiat tends to stop producing parts for cars while they are in production. This is part of the reason the 124 had three different rear axles during it's run. (the first was due to breakage). I would also think that modern fiat wants the old fiats to remain a distant memory

mad_machine wrote: I have not tried shopping the dealer for my 124, but I doubt they offer parts for it. Fiat tends to stop producing parts for cars while they are in production. This is part of the reason the 124 had three different rear axles during it's run. (the first was due to breakage). I would also think that modern fiat wants the old fiats to remain a distant memory

lol they might be thinking that. I would think the 124 would be THE car they would support though so it looks like I might have the same issues I have already. I probably should check the euro Fiat community to see if I would at least be able to get parts outside the US.

My shop specializes in Italian and British cars. The Fiat market in the US is primarily served by Midwest Bayless Fiat Plus Mr. Fiat Vick Auto and Auto Ricambi

Lancia and Alfa specific vendors exist as well.

International sellers like Ricambio are a better choice than you would think. There are a lot of Fiat parts suppliers in the UK due to some weird tax dodge loop holes in the 80's and 90's. Shipping from the UK isn't bad and often it is faster than the US suppliers. I also get quite a few bits from Greece and Egypt of all places.

Up until the last few months I would have proudly proclaimed that the Italian car spares were of much higher quality than the equivalent British spares but I have had quite a few issues lately with off spec bushing kits. It still isn't near as awful as some of the stuff Moss Motors sells like lighting without all the necessary terminals or trim that is obviously too short or too long. My favorite is the "premium" MGB headlight trim that won't fit over a standard 7" light.

Places like Rockauto have a surprising amount of "keep it on the road" type parts. I also have had NAPA get me things like starters, alternators and ignition components.

Jumper K. Balls wrote: My shop specializes in Italian and British cars. The Fiat market in the US is primarily served by Midwest Bayless Fiat Plus Mr. Fiat Vick Auto and Auto Ricambi Lancia and Alfa specific vendors exist as well. International sellers like Ricambio are a better choice than you would think. There are a lot of Fiat parts suppliers in the UK due to some weird tax dodge loop holes in the 80's and 90's. Shipping from the UK isn't bad and often it is faster than the US suppliers. I also get quite a few bits from Greece and Egypt of all places. Up until the last few months I would have proudly proclaimed that the Italian car spares were of much higher quality than the equivalent British spares but I have had quite a few issues lately with off spec bushing kits. It still isn't near as awful as some of the stuff Moss Motors sells like lighting without all the necessary terminals or trim that is obviously too short or too long. My favorite is the "premium" MGB headlight trim that won't fit over a standard 7" light. Places like Rockauto have a surprising amount of "keep it on the road" type parts. I also have had NAPA get me things like starters, alternators and ignition components.

Ya for Skyline parts i've been getting stuff from the UK and Australia mostly with UK shipment being faster despite my living on the west coast.

You make it sound at least identical to the car I already own which is good. I am finding parts that I think would be common to go bad and various aftermarket stuff like suspension and am finding plentiful options.

There are still some tax dodge loopholes which still work in a way btw. Australian and UK parts the shipping pretty much pay for its self since you don't have to pay VAT or GST. If you see a site in those countries and they are charging you VAT or GST go elsewhere but usually they know what they are doing.

edit: Some parts are cheaper than for my Nissan which is a shocker.

Alfissimo and Di Fatta Brothers are my go-to places for Alfa 164 24V parts. The 164 24V is the hardest US market Alfa to get parts for due to their rarity and lots of unique parts that don't fit 12V 164s or later 24V Alfas. Lots of parts like the timing belt can't be found anywhere else in the United States. I don't know if they have 155 parts on hand but Jeremy at Alfissimo would likely be able to track them down.

IIRC the 155 Q4/Delta Integrale engine is a turbocharged Fiat Twin-Cam engine. If any parts swap between the turbo and non-turbo engines then you can at least get those from the classic Fiat suppliers that were already mentioned.

One more helpful website is Fiat ePer. This site will help you get OEM part numbers.

RexSeven wrote: Alfissimo and Di Fatta Brothers are my go-to places for Alfa 164 24V parts. The 164 24V is the hardest US market Alfa to get parts for due to their rarity and lots of unique parts that don't fit 12V 164s or later 24V Alfas. Lots of parts like the timing belt can't be found anywhere else in the United States. I don't know if they have 155 parts on hand but Jeremy at Alfissimo would likely be able track them down. IIRC the 155 Q4/Delta Integrale engine is a turbocharged Fiat Twin-Cam engine. If any parts swap between the turbo and non-turbo engines then you can at least get those from the classic Fiat suppliers that were already mentioned. One more helpful website is Fiat ePer. This site will help you get OEM part numbers.

Ya, drivetrain is my least concern, there are plenty of parts for that around it seems. Plus the engine its self is basically just a stoutly built fiat twin cam.

I would mostly be concerned to things that are unique to the 155 chassis and I haven't been able to find if the Q4 has unique parts to just the Q4. That has caused me problems with my Skyline since GTR parts are more common than GTS-T parts.

edit: Looks like the Q4, twin spark, and V6 are the same in terms of all suspension parts so that's good.

What's funny with how the GBP tanked I find these for far cheaper in the UK than in Japan at the moment...literally half.