The last Acura model to bear a Type S badge was the TL back in 2008. Now, 13 years later, that nameplate returns, this time attached to the second-generation TLX.
Acura isn’t super specific in its press release announcing the TLX Type S’s on-sale date and price, but the company does&nb…
With the chrome beak gone these cars look a lot better. But the front fascia is still so over-styled. This looks like it was designed by a committee and the only directive was "make it look aggressive".
In reply to pres589 (djronnebaum) :
That doesn't only apply to the front fascia.
In reply to Driven5 :
The rear view isn't great but it isn't nearly as bad as the front. I haven't looked at the interior yet and I doubt I'd want to.
We're all just agreeing not to talk about only 355hp out of a TTV6? Alright, got it, first rule of low HP club, you do not talk about low HP club
In reply to calteg :
355HP sounds like much more than enough. What are you hoping for? It's well over 100hp/liter and seems like a lot to me.
Wonder if this is another Honda V6 that can be easily adapted to a RWD manual trans from a BMW. Not that I have any interest in such a swap myself but it'd be fun to see someone do.
In reply to calteg :
Honda has never been about high-hp numbers. I don't think Honda knows exactly what Acura is about these days, but it won't be that.
I was curious, and Acura's turbo V6 in the NSX makes 500hp without the hybrid stuff.
My initial reaction was that 335hp was plenty, and it might be, but turbo V6s are all over the map. We can look at engines from the Guilia Quadrifoglio, Nissan GT-R, or even the Ford Raptor and see 450-600hp as the expectation. But I don't think this car is supposed to be any of those vehicles. This car reminds me more of Acura's take on the most recent Taurus SHO. They're both large sedans with transverse turbo V6s that can supply power to all 4 wheels but prefer to drive the fronts. The 2010 SHO came with 365hp, so I guess in that regard 335hp from a brand new equivalent might be a bit disappointing. You never know until you drive them though.
Going to be a failure. No one buys sedans.
Used to be huge acura fanboy. Never bought anything from them after my 2012 Tsx wagon
no one buys the tlx, much less the type s.
Like the Infiniti 400 red sport, that no one also buys
at that price range, all sheep buy cuv. Those that dont, buy Tesla 3 or lease Bmw 3 series, now that alfa cheap lease sedans are played out
A whole lotta poo-pooing in here, but I'm hopeful that TTv6 will take to a reflash the same way the turbo-4 in the Accord does. That is, extremely well.
In reply to pres589 (djronnebaum) :
The Q50 Red Sport makes 400hp. The V6 Stinger makes 10 more hp and undercuts the Acura by thousands. The V6 Guilia makes 150 more horsepower. Hell, a bog standard 335i made 300 to the wheels...14 years ago.
There's a litany of natural aspirated V6's that have been making 300+ for a decade: IS350, Camaro, Mustang, G35.
Completely unfair comparison: A brand new 1LT V6 camaro is within spitting distance of the Type S motor without the benefit of two turbos and is half the price.
Acura has been behind the curve getting this car to market and when it arrives, it'll be more expensive and less powerful than most of its rivals. Am I supposed to be amazed? At least it's less ugly than prior Acuras.
I don't think "amazed" is what they're trying to do here. I think it's more like "extremely competent Honda sedan". If HP is more important than some other feature of the car (I don't care about this car and I don't know what feature that would be, I've no dog in this and I'm not a Honda fanboy) then go get one of those other cars.
I drive a car, I don't drive the numbers, so this seems silly to me. If the thing does 0-60 in around 7 seconds then I think the power is sufficient and I'd focus elsewhere. That's my thinking.
My thinking is: If you're trying to compete in the niche "sport sedan" market, being down 50hp from your rivals is a pretty bad start. But hey, Acura has a long, storied history of shooting themselves in the foot.
Looks like I'm in the minority here that's excited about the Type S.
That being said, many of you make some good points. 335 does seem like it's on the lower end of what a turbo V6 should be capable of.
I thought power-to-weight might be a factor here, but the current top trim TLX—with the turbo four-cylinder—only weighs around 5 pounds less than the top-of-the-line, all-wheel-drive Kia Stinger (rear-wheel-drive weighs in at 3829).
In reply to Colin Wood :
IMO, comparing a Stinger to a TLX is like comparing a McBurger to a fine diner burger. Technically they have the same specs, but sample them back to back and you'd have to be dead inside to not feel the difference.
Acuras feel about two levels better to drive, the money is well spent.
Now if only they made a smaller sedan!
First impression was "great another tarted up Accord" Acura needs to do more to separate them self form the run of the mill Hondas. I realize that is hard to do if for no other reason costs will make it prohibitive but still.
Versus
Actually it looks like an Audi S6 and a Accord made a baby
Or you know, someone could drive the thing and then decide if it's good or bad? I get the spec-shopping argument though. It just never tells the whole story.
Price, features and performance specs that go right alongside the Audi S4.
Acura needs to market it properly and then it will stand a chance..
also WHERE IS THE BLUE THE CONCEPT CAR USED????!?!!!??
this color they're showing it off with is weird..
Matt B (fs) said:Or you know, someone could drive the thing and then decide if it's good or bad?
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Nahhhhhh.
Been seeing more than a couple of the new TSX's on the road around Cincinnati lately. Not a fan of the Type S over styling, but I sure do like the looks of the lower models.
In reply to einy (Forum Supporter) :
What interests me is the active toe in the back. There are electric motors in the rear toe links.
The ghosts of Nissans past are howling!
mr2s2000elise said:Going to be a failure. No one buys sedans.
Used to be huge acura fanboy. Never bought anything from them after my 2012 Tsx wagon
no one buys the tlx, much less the type s.
Like the Infiniti 400 red sport, that no one also buys
at that price range, all sheep buy cuv. Those that dont, buy Tesla 3 or lease Bmw 3 series, now that alfa cheap lease sedans are played out
This. Exactly. The 2022 Acura MDX Type S comes out this summer. Same engine, trans-mission, and SH-AWD. Will certainly crush the TLX. The "sheep" will be in line, waiting.
The killer is the small backseat for the footprint (and maybe the weight). I was very interested in this car after finding out acura went back to double wishbones as a side-grade to my wife's 6-speed 1st gen TSX but with such a small rear seat it's hard to justify
(If you want to see one of my favorite lesser known youtubers get into it.)
spacecadet (Forum Supporter) said:Price, features and performance specs that go right alongside the Audi S4.
Acura needs to market it properly and then it will stand a chance..
also WHERE IS THE BLUE THE CONCEPT CAR USED????!?!!!??
this color they're showing it off with is weird..
What? You dont like the baby puke mustard yellow over the brilliant shade of performance blue? Shame.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to Colin Wood :
Acuras feel about two levels better to drive, the money is well spent.
Now if only they made a smaller sedan!
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