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Slippery
Slippery HalfDork
7/12/14 9:27 p.m.

What happens if the battery goes bad? Cant he still keep driving it with the gas engine?

Slippery
Slippery HalfDork
7/12/14 9:33 p.m.

Check the link below. It says that Honda is very lenient about battery pack replacement, even on cars that are out of warranty:

Civic Hybrid battery replacement

ryanty22
ryanty22 Dork
7/12/14 10:55 p.m.
Slippery wrote: Check the link below. It says that Honda is very lenient about battery pack replacement, even on cars that are out of warranty: Civic Hybrid battery replacement

That may be the key. I'll cal Honda monday.morning for him, I know as chili_head can tell you also he'll screw it up if its left to him

in reply to box head tim: normally I would but he is.like a little brother to me, been trying to keep him outta trouble since middle school. Same goes with chili_head but he doesn't get in trouble as often.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
7/12/14 11:22 p.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: The Civic Hybrid may be different but I thought the Honda Hybrids still worked with a battery failure? Might be a better idea to drive around like this if the dealer isn't going to help out until he's saved up enough money to fix the thing.

This, or ride a bicycle/take the bus for a few months until the $$ is saved to repair it. Trading in on something else is just going to berkeley his financial situation more.

Mitchell
Mitchell UltraDork
7/12/14 11:24 p.m.
ryanty22 wrote:
Slippery wrote: Check the link below. It says that Honda is very lenient about battery pack replacement, even on cars that are out of warranty: Civic Hybrid battery replacement
That may be the key. I'll cal Honda monday.morning for him, I know as chili_head can tell you also he'll screw it up if its left to him in reply to box head tim: normally I would but he is.like a little brother to me, been trying to keep him outta trouble since middle school. Same goes with chili_head but he doesn't get in trouble as often.

Why are you calling for him? Pass along the resources that you have found, but don't do the dirty work. He will never learn.

ryanty22
ryanty22 Dork
7/12/14 11:31 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: The Civic Hybrid may be different but I thought the Honda Hybrids still worked with a battery failure? Might be a better idea to drive around like this if the dealer isn't going to help out until he's saved up enough money to fix the thing.
This, or ride a bicycle/take the bus for a few months until the $$ is saved to repair it. Trading in on something else is just going to berkeley his financial situation more.

Unfortunately he has a 25-30 mile commute to work. He has been driving it with the lightone and his gas mileage has gone to E36 M3 (for a hybrid). If buses or riding a bike was an option for him I'd tell him to do that. He is like my family though as much of a well meaning dumbass as he can be, I need to do whatever I can to help him.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
7/13/14 5:04 p.m.
What happens if the battery goes bad? Cant he still keep driving it with the gas engine?

Based on my intimate knowledge of the failure modes of Honda's archaic IMA system, what will happen is the vehicle will become LUDICROUSLY SLOW.

ryanty22
ryanty22 Dork
7/14/14 1:00 a.m.

Today he went to the evil empire of stealerships, carmax. Got an 2011 a hyundai accent hatch. Anyone who has experience with this one?

failboat
failboat UltraDork
7/14/14 6:14 a.m.
ryanty22 wrote:
szeis4cookie wrote: I think Hyundai or Kia is the answer here. Cheap to buy, long warranty to get them out from under the loan.
Are they reliable with minimal maint costs?

Yes and yes. Just as good as a honda or toyota anymore imo. Just stick to the factory maintenance schedule

Edit: oops I am late to the game. Yes I have a 2009 accent since new and approaching 120k trouble free miles. The accent forum at hyundai-forums.com has some knowledgable users and helpful diy posts for common maintenance and repairs. Its a very easy car to work on, simple.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
7/14/14 7:17 a.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: Can't swing $3k so the plan is to finance $10k?

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
7/14/14 8:22 a.m.

There really seems to be nothing I can write here that will not make me seem like a dick (or more of a dick) so here it goes.

I see some inconsistencies here:
1) You are asking for a car that needs little to no maint. They do not exist.
1a) If they do exist, a Civic is a pretty good start and your friend failed here already. Sure the hybrid is more complex but it should still remain on the list.

2) You feel the need to help your friend. Your friend does not seem to see this the same way. This is one of those hard lessons in life.

My first thought is that you should buy your friend a book, Dave Ramsey. I then realize that you can not make someone read a book and he may be highly unlikely. So then, as I think this through even further I realize that your friend may be hard to save. You may save him best by leading and not trying to "help him" roll another $5k into another car loan.
That leads me to the conclusion that you need the book for yourself first.
In a less "dick" move on my part...just say the word and I will send you a copy of the book, just promise me you will read it!
If you really want to follow "the ways of Dave" I recommend just going to the library and borrowing a copy for free!

So, why am I on this rant here? Because we all have one!
For me, that "one" is my wife's nephew.
He's 28 and he has a 23 yr old wife. He has an '07 Acura RDX with 120k miles that he owes $18k plus on.
Yeah, think about that for a minute. He bought it USED and paid mid $30k for it.
He has been working a gov't security contractor out of the country which can pay well but they have nothing to show for it. He can get jobs but he can not keep them.
They returned from Korea with nowhere to live. My wife's mother agreed to take in the 23 yr old girl while he took another position in Guantanamo. As expected, he did not last (or cut it) in Getmo and he is now working as a Gov't security contractor (mall cop) in Iowa or Nebraska (I really do not know or care.)
We were getting his wife straightened out and the Acura is no longer in threat of being repo'ed.
They have caught up on their bills. They still own really nothing and what they do own can fit inside the Acrua.
He had acquired an old Toyota van from someone on her side of the family which gave him transportation while they lived apart. She went out to visit him, driving the Acura. She returned the following week, now driving a brand new Volester, about $26k, every option but turbo.
Seems the Toyota needed some repairs so their solution was a $300 per month lease!

They now have a new car noose around their neck, major upside down debt on an Acura, they still have no amassed savings and no permanent residence. She works retail in a mall and is so excited that she can transfer with the company to his town. He is still (and always will) be rocky at keeping long term employment. To top it all off, she is now pregnant.

I wash my hands of the whole thing.

ryanty22
ryanty22 Dork
7/14/14 8:36 a.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

You didn't sound like a dick, i understand what your saying. I've tried to help him in that way and you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. My role in this situation knowing that they are going to trade out anyways is to help him minimize the damage they are gonna do my making sure they get something with maximum warranty coverage so that the thing will last until they get out of the whole they've dug for themselves.

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