former520
former520 Reader
6/30/15 11:01 p.m.

I had a buddy stop by with his new to him truck tonight to show it off. First thing I noticed when he popped the hood was corrosion around the motor. This is not common in AZ. Then he showed me the trickle charger that was installed, that was also connected to a block heater, also not common in AZ. Further looking showed a Motomaster battery and accessories, which look like it is a house brand from Canada Tires.

The final 2 hints that it may not be a desert truck included the rust all through the under body and a Canadian VIN plate. He had no problem signing up for a big loan on it, but couldn't ask for a carfax or vehicle history.

Live and learn, could someone look up 3GNFK12347G170182 for me?

former520
former520 Reader
7/1/15 8:37 a.m.

Arizona has a 72 hour law that you can return vehicles to dealers. I want to find out what else is hiding. There is evidence of body work, very good body work, but work the same.

The dealer went so far as to paint all of the suspension components and everything in the wheel wells black to hide the rust, also the outside of the frame rails as well. You couldn't see any of the evidence of salt country until you got under it.

I spent 2 of the last 5 weekends replacing the entire front steering and bushings, rear air ride, full brake system on his Denali. He traded it because of an intermittent start issue. I know when this one needs work it is coming my way as well. I grew up in MN with rust cars, I prefer to not have to work on them again.

former520
former520 Reader
7/1/15 9:05 a.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: AZ does not have a 72 hour return law. No State does. I sold cars in AZ years ago, everyone thought that was the law, but it's not. He owns it. Here is the law. If you tell him now, you're just being "that guy"

1500 - good link, learn something new everyday. Looks like it is time to leave it alone.

former520
former520 Reader
7/1/15 9:50 a.m.

Too late for that. The second he popped the hood I saw the corrosion on everything and asked him where the truck was from. He looked at me like a deer in the headlights on why I would ask.

He saw the trickle charger and block heater before he bought it, but never thought it could mean it was from a cold country location. All of the rust cover up and corrosion jumped right out at him after that.

Too blinded by the shiny paint along with new lift and big bling tires (all used dealer installed to pump up price) to notice the truck itself.

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
7/1/15 10:01 a.m.

Well the Motomaster stuff is definitely from Canadian Tire, so that truck has been in Canada or near there.

Not sure what you mean by a "Canadian vin plate". As far as I know vin's in North America are the same.

lnlogauge
lnlogauge Reader
7/1/15 10:15 a.m.

Manufactured In Mexico. the lesser Canada.

Cone_Junkie
Cone_Junkie SuperDork
7/1/15 10:20 a.m.

04/26/2010 41,270 Damage Report Winnipeg, MB Damage claim reported due to vandalism on 03/13/2010

Damage repair estimate performed Damage to left side Estimated damage amount was CAD$1,524.64 Odometer reported as 66,418 kilometers 05/03/2010 Vickar Mitsubishi Winnipeg, MB 204-667-9200 vickarmitsubishi.com Oil and filter changed Tires rotated Battery replaced Electrical system checked Trim repaired 05/12/2010 Damage Report Winnipeg, MB Damage claim reported due to collision on 03/13/2010

Damage repair estimate performed Estimated damage amount was CAD$4,247.22 07/14/2010 42,488 Damage Report Winnipeg, MB Damage claim reported due to vandalism on 05/25/2010

Damage repair estimate performed Damage to right side Estimated damage amount was CAD$1,560.08 Odometer reported as 68,378 kilometers

10/21/2011 54,317 Damage Report Winnipeg, MB Damage claim reported due to collision on 09/11/2011

Damage repair estimate performed Damage to left rear corner Estimated damage amount was CAD$3,041.41 Claim amount was updated on 03/23/2012. Odometer reported as 87,415 kilometers

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/1/15 10:32 a.m.

drunk driver that kept claiming vandalism or someone who kept getting caught cheating?

former520
former520 Reader
7/1/15 11:49 a.m.

It has a VIN plate has the Maple Leap on it and states Canada Transport. Definitely different than every other VIN I have seen.

There is a picture of it in the link on there site. http://www.mytruckmax.com/detail-2007-chevrolet-avalanche-avalanche_k1500-used-13707451.html

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
7/1/15 11:55 a.m.

Its one of dem Mexican Maple Leafs.

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 UltraDork
7/1/15 12:12 p.m.

Sure looks nice in pictures, but by the sounds of it the truck is not all it appears to be. I hope he didn't pay that asking price. Maybe that is the going price for a fancy Suburban with a bed, but I don't see it. I paid $6k for my 04 Suburban. Now of course it isn't nearly well equipped, or fancy looking ,but man that is some steep price difference.

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
7/1/15 12:32 p.m.
former520 wrote: It has a VIN plate has the Maple Leap on it and states Canada Transport. Definitely different than every other VIN I have seen. There is a picture of it in the link on there site. http://www.mytruckmax.com/detail-2007-chevrolet-avalanche-avalanche_k1500-used-13707451.html

That is a Transport Canada Certification sticker so yes that truck was definitely sold new in Canada.

I thought you were referring to the VIN plate on the left side of the dash.

maj75
maj75 Reader
7/1/15 6:37 p.m.

Was the car reading KM or Miles on the speedo and odometer? I don't know if you can change the readout or not on this vehicle. Could they have installed a different gauge cluster?

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
7/1/15 8:24 p.m.
maj75 wrote: Was the car reading KM or Miles on the speedo and odometer? I don't know if you can change the readout or not on this vehicle. Could they have installed a different gauge cluster?

Most GM's and Ford's can be flipped between Metric and Imperial units at the flip of a switch.

bgkast
bgkast UberDork
7/1/15 8:40 p.m.

Oohhh, shiny tread!

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