Vigo
Dork
4/12/11 12:29 a.m.
Ive seen plenty of videos where this kind of racing is done perfectly seriously and provides great entertainment with no damage. Im pretty sure you have some leeway in who you stage with.
Id love to try it sometime. I certainly wont bring anything i cant afford to lose.
Oval track racing is a completely different culture. I once was watching a street stock race and the announcer was talking about the different drivers and one guy had been racing there for something like 20 years, and another driver was a younger girl that was very fast but hadn't been driving long, and the older driver decided to try to teach her a lesson for being a girl that was faster than he was, so he spent the whole race trying to spin her car, but she just drove her own race and even though he kept ramming the left rear of her car every turn ended up placing ahead of him. In any other kind of racing after the first time he did that he would probably have been black flagged and told to not come back, but there it was perfectly fine.
Did anyone see the the videos of the viper or 911 turbo hitting the wall too? I am pretty sure the viper would be totalled. Kinda a waste of money for a pointless race. lol
That's not oval track culture, it must be a local thing. I grew up around oval tracks, and have never seen that.
Wally
SuperDork
4/12/11 3:20 a.m.
I've never seen anyhting that dumb before. My father ran Spectator Drags at freeport for years and if there was an accident a year it was a lot and I don't remember anyone hitting anyone else. Most were minor, like the time he took the passenger side door handles of mom's Malibu when it got a bit loose
DrBoost
SuperDork
4/12/11 7:12 a.m.
OK, you get some slow, stock cars, have them drive around in a cicrle once. My god, I didn't think there was racing more boring that nascrap. I think the contact is because the drivers fell asleep out of pure boredom.
Seriously, the contact is the necessary ingredient to make it entertaining....but I'd never do it.
WilberM3 wrote:
yea that buick vid is just spectacular
Not to mention downright stupid.
Over a decade ago, I was watching the "King of the Hill" drags between races at Delaware Speedway, outside London, Ontario. A guy in a nice new Firebird looses it big time and smacks the wall. He didn't seem the least bit concerned about it. The next day on the local news it was revealed that the car had been "borrowed" from a local dealer's lot and the cops were trying to track the guy down.
Duke
SuperDork
4/12/11 8:20 a.m.
MA$$hole wrote:
WilberM3 wrote:
yea that buick vid is just spectacular
Not to mention downright stupid.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Those trees would have made a helluva flyswatter if he had stuck the landing (which was highly likely).
On the original subject, I just have to say WTF, just like everybody else. I've been to circle tracks, and I've never seen anything like that.
Duke wrote:
MA$$hole wrote:
WilberM3 wrote:
yea that buick vid is just spectacular
Not to mention downright stupid.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Those trees would have made a helluva flyswatter if he had stuck the landing (which was highly likely).
On the original subject, I just have to say WTF, just like everybody else. I've been to circle tracks, and I've never seen anything like that.
These guys make me feel a little better about being American.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUqWb6hyTU&feature=related
It's comforting knowing that we aren't the only ones.
Zomby woof wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kMTHwjy6Z8&feature=related
My son and I watched it over, and over, and over....
That is amazing! Reminds me of a Jumbo Jet landing...
ronholm
New Reader
4/12/11 10:09 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote:
Zomby woof wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kMTHwjy6Z8&feature=related
My son and I watched it over, and over, and over....
That is amazing! Reminds me of a Jumbo Jet landing...
I have watched this at least 10 times now... and it makes me laugh every single time...
Haha they had one of those at a track up in wisconsin when I was visiting family a few years back, on a 1/4 mile oval track.
They put a 90~ camaro up against a Subaru STi.
I was there with my cousin and a bunch of his friends. They were all completely convinced the Camaro was going to destroy the STi (and I am sure most of the crowd there probably agreed with them)
Of course the STi beat the camaro in a 3 lap race by well over half a lap. haha.
Vigo
Dork
4/12/11 12:22 p.m.
OK, you get some slow, stock cars, have them drive around in a cicrle once.
And isnt the main complaint about nascar racing the total lack of connection to any other kind of car and the super-regulated close competitiveness?
Face it, youd find something not to like about this racing even if it was different. This stuff is the closest racing to real, normal life that doesnt happen on public streets. Id love to race some of my street cars head to head on a track with turns that i didnt have to do any tedious prep for and that wasnt long enough to cook off my street brakes and street tires on my street car.. They only go one lap because there's a big line queued up behind them.
ronholm
New Reader
4/12/11 12:27 p.m.
My question is do you have to take a breathalyzer to make certain you have had enough to drink before they let you out on the track...
Duke
SuperDork
4/12/11 12:32 p.m.
Vigo wrote:
Face it, youd find something not to like about this racing even if it was different. This stuff is the closest racing to real, normal life that doesnt happen on public streets. Id love to race some of my street cars head to head on a track with turns that i didnt have to do any tedious prep for and that wasnt long enough to cook off my street brakes and street tires on my street car.. They only go one lap because there's a big line queued up behind them.
I'm fine with the format. What I'm NOT fine with is the apparent "let me smash the crap out of your street car to prevent you from getting around the track before me" mentality of the competitors.
There's a reason they call it spectator racing. IMO spectators should stay on the outside of the track fence.
Zomby woof wrote:
We have those here (dirt and paved), but people generally play nice, and the racing is for real. I've seen some good races, and never seen a wreck.
Thanks for posting that. If you hadn't, I probably never would have seen this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kMTHwjy6Z8&feature=related
My son and I watched it over, and over, and over....
I was waiting for the impact with the trees at the bottom of the hill. Yikes is that nuts!!!
Vigo
Dork
4/12/11 3:17 p.m.
What I'm NOT fine with is the apparent "let me smash the crap out of your street car to prevent you from getting around the track before me" mentality of the competitors.
And apparently the majority of people and tracks arent either, so as long as you do a little research before trying it, there shouldnt be any problems... at least, that dont occur in every other kind of racing as well.
if you really mean what you said about driving slow, stock cars in a circle once, you would not like it anyway.
I had actually thought about doing this. Unfortunately, the Neon vs. Taurus video was at the "local track" I was considering going to, so I guess I'm crossing that off the list.
Not really sure I wanted to put "Circle Track Specator Racing" on the racing resume anyways.
DrBoost
SuperDork
4/12/11 5:22 p.m.
Vigo wrote:
OK, you get some slow, stock cars, have them drive around in a cicrle once.
And isnt the main complaint about nascar racing the total lack of connection to any other kind of car and the super-regulated close competitiveness?
Face it, youd find something not to like about this racing even if it was different. This stuff is the closest racing to real, normal life that doesnt happen on public streets. Id love to race some of my street cars head to head on a track with turns that i didnt have to do any tedious prep for and that wasnt long enough to cook off my street brakes and street tires on my street car.. They only go one lap because there's a big line queued up behind them.
I guess we're different Vigo. Watching a stock Tempo automatic and a stock Pontiac 6000 STE racing for one lap isn't exciting to me. It's no more or less exciting than watching tube frame cars drive around in a circle a few hundred times.
The only thing that is exciting is the demo derby aspect of it, but there's something there I just don't get. Funny how that comment applies to this racing AND nascrap.
The little paved oval across from Road Atlanta (Lanier Speedway) holds spectator races every once in awhile. Yeah, occasionally somebody gets the car out of shape, but I've never seen anything intentional like in the first couple of vids posted. Still, I wouldn't take anything I wanted to keep out there.
Wally
SuperDork
4/12/11 7:38 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
I guess we're different Vigo. Watching a stock Tempo automatic and a stock Pontiac 6000 STE racing for one lap isn't exciting to me. It's no more or less exciting than watching tube frame cars drive around in a circle a few hundred times.
No, but when Mr Bigshot brings down his 911, puts on his string back gloves and aviator glasses, then loses badly to a six cylinder Malibu it can be funny as hell. He almost died when my dad popped the hood and he saw the straight six.
Vigo
Dork
4/12/11 9:56 p.m.
Watching a stock Tempo automatic and a stock Pontiac 6000 STE racing for one lap isn't exciting to me. It's no more or less exciting than watching tube frame cars drive around in a circle a few hundred times.
Well i suppose if you are immune to the mantra of 'driving a slow car fast' than almost any low-buck racing would hold little appeal for you.