PDoane
New Reader
11/29/10 1:48 p.m.
A friend of mine recently bought a 2006 M6 (after asking me what I knew about double clutch systems) and mentioned that "they were having clutch wear issues" and it got me thingking why wouldn't the manufacturer of a vehicle with one of the electro-hydraulic paddle shifting manual transmissions warranty clutch wear when the computer is the only thing controlling it?
Clutch and brake wear has tradoitionally been a non-warranty item because the user/driver usually has more to do with the wear of those things than the vehicle itself. For those systems w/o any clutch pedal for the user/driver to use and the computer always controls the clutch actions, why shouldn't clutch wear be a warranty item?
Once they put you in some control (use of flappy paddles), I guess that's all they need to say "it's your fault".
I b'lieve you're onto sumthin' there, Hoss!
If there's no clutch pedal to use as a footrest, surely warranty work on a clutch would decrease. Perhaps the issues are more timing problems in changing from one shaft to the other. I can see where that could be a real headache if the computer suddenly decided to take the well-known dump.
M6 has a few different settings for how aggressive the clutch is. Left in full power mode with everything turned up to 11 plus a heavy footed driver they burn out.
Hey, if they won't warranty light bulbs, what makes you think they would warranty an automated-manual transmission?
Nashco
SuperDork
11/29/10 4:12 p.m.
Sounds like a good question for the dealership you are shopping at before you buy the car. The answer may help you understand if you want an automated manual or a plainol' manual.
Bryce
I was just looking through my 2011 Fiesta warranty.
If the clutches are deemed part of the transmission on the automatic twin clutch they are warranteed. Manual clutches are not warranteed. Makes a good question for the dealer/company.
Since regular automatics have clutches,they are warranteed.
A lot of manufacturers have a big fat grey line down the center of DSG / Dual Clutch warranty information, it's not that they are all excluded but more individually judged. I saw an 85K mile GTi with APR stickers and R compounds on it get a new clutch and a 14K mile TDi get rejected.
Mikey52_1 wrote:
I can see where that could be a real headache if the computer suddenly decided to take the well-known dump.
didn't realize those car computers were windows based
Sometimes it's a judgement call. I had a guy show up with a New Beetle with a royally roasted clutch. In 600 miles. He had bought it for his 16 yo daughter and taught her to drive stick (obviously not well) then brought the car in for a new clutch under warranty. In my district, service managers had no authority to warranty clutches AT ALL so I had to bounce it up to the district rep. The rep told the guy 'we do not supply clutches for you to fry while teaching'.