AngryCorvair said:mid-engine V8 corvair motorsportsing 16 years ago probably won't stimulate any advertisers so i'll vote for pasting an Interstellar Sledgehammer bumper sticker on the centerpiece car.
I'll definitely have to get that AngryCorvair titled instrumental finished now
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:I'll definitely have to get that AngryCorvair titled instrumental finished now
As long as it inspires spontaneous eruption of mosh pits in churches and libraries and such.
Okay, how are we digging this?
Doesn't really show up great in the browser at full size. Here's a little smaller versions so you can see everything.
Nice.
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
I like it!
I like it!
I see that you put the fastest car first in the lineup of pictures.
I like that you worked in Interstellar Sledgehammer and a Radwood color scheme!
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
I must admit, I had to look up "august" as an adjective.
We may not buy new cars but we do buy new parts, new hand tools, new power tools, new air tools, new compressors for the new air tools, new accessories for the new compressors powering the new air tools, new tires, new wheels, new lifts, new jacks, new hoists, new creepers, new parts to fix all this stuff when it isn't new anymore, new welders, new safety gear, new clothing, new gloves, new lighting, new headlamps, new building materials, new helmets, new racing suits, new driving shoes, new safety harnesses, new HANS devices, and new places to buy used parts, especially for oddball cars. Every advertiser who thinks we don't buy new E36 M3 should take their heads and soak them in our new 5 gallon utility buckets.
I love it! 
Along the lines of what Jerry mentioned.
We the subscribers want you the advertisers to know we appreciate your patronage of this magazine. We also want you to know that part of the reason we buy your products is because you advertise here. We build them, drive them, race them, upgrade them, wreck them, blow them up, and and fix them using a lot of your products and services while doing so.
This ad was purchased by a collection of individual subscribers who participate on the GRM forum during the pandemic. We make no claims that any of the cars pictured are the best, or the fastest, or the prettiest, or the most fuel efficient, or the most economical to operate, or the most valuable. But, they're our cars and we like to play with them anyway. Thank-you for being an advertiser
Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
NOT A TA said:Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
JG asked everyone who put in to send him pics of their cars, not sure everyone saw that post a couple pages back...
Raze (Forum Supporter) said:NOT A TA said:Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
JG asked everyone who put in to send him pics of their cars, not sure everyone saw that post a couple pages back...
Yeah I used every picture I got sent. If you want to get in on the action, email me a pic with the subject line (all caps): GRM MESSAGE BOARD AD ROUND 2.
jg@grassrootsmotorsports.com.
I can hold things until about first thing Wednesday morning then I have to get it back up here and approved so it can go in the digital files headed for the printer. I'll look through some of that other copy and see there's some pieces we can pull from there into our current text and not bloat it up too much or things start losing their impact.
So: Action Items: Gimme more car pix, and I will at least review some of the other copy for a seamless fittment with what's there.
Last question: Should there be a direct call to action> Like, it says buy ads, but maybe a link to this thread showing how dedicated so many readers were in making this happen would be a good idea. The whole thing from concept to execution is here. All the ideas, all the passion, everything that did and didn't make it into the ad. This might be the perfect plsce to bring them. Then once they get here, it's up to you to keep them amazed.
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
Works for me.
I also like Not a TA's dissertation but this is an ad not a column and with ads many times less is more.
I like the ad. More pics would be great if they get submitted on time and fit. I agree with bigben that some of the other suggested text is nice for a letter from a reader type of thing, but not for our ad. Less is more.
If you want to include a link of the genesis of this, maybe the "Pandemic is crushing our industry..." thread is better: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/this-pandemic-is-crushing-our/170690/page1/
That's where the idea really started and when we all started sending money and words to show our support.
JG Pasterjak said:Raze (Forum Supporter) said:NOT A TA said:Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
JG asked everyone who put in to send him pics of their cars, not sure everyone saw that post a couple pages back...
Yeah I used every picture I got sent. If you want to get in on the action, email me a pic with the subject line (all caps): GRM MESSAGE BOARD AD ROUND 2.
jg@grassrootsmotorsports.com.
I can hold things until about first thing Wednesday morning then I have to get it back up here and approved so it can go in the digital files headed for the printer. I'll look through some of that other copy and see there's some pieces we can pull from there into our current text and not bloat it up too much or things start losing their impact.
So: Action Items: Gimme more car pix, and I will at least review some of the other copy for a seamless fittment with what's there.
Last question: Should there be a direct call to action> Like, it says buy ads, but maybe a link to this thread showing how dedicated so many readers were in making this happen would be a good idea. The whole thing from concept to execution is here. All the ideas, all the passion, everything that did and didn't make it into the ad. This might be the perfect plsce to bring them. Then once they get here, it's up to you to keep them amazed.
Just emailed (finally)
JG Pasterjak said:Last question: Should there be a direct call to action> Like, it says buy ads, but maybe a link to this thread showing how dedicated so many readers were in making this happen would be a good idea. The whole thing from concept to execution is here. All the ideas, all the passion, everything that did and didn't make it into the ad. This might be the perfect plsce to bring them. Then once they get here, it's up to you to keep them amazed.
Yes - maybe with a tinyurl or URL shortcut from your DNS?
JG Pasterjak said:Raze (Forum Supporter) said:NOT A TA said:Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
JG asked everyone who put in to send him pics of their cars, not sure everyone saw that post a couple pages back...
Yeah I used every picture I got sent. If you want to get in on the action, email me a pic with the subject line (all caps): GRM MESSAGE BOARD AD ROUND 2.
jg@grassrootsmotorsports.com.
I can hold things until about first thing Wednesday morning then I have to get it back up here and approved so it can go in the digital files headed for the printer. I'll look through some of that other copy and see there's some pieces we can pull from there into our current text and not bloat it up too much or things start losing their impact.
So: Action Items: Gimme more car pix, and I will at least review some of the other copy for a seamless fittment with what's there.
Last question: Should there be a direct call to action> Like, it says buy ads, but maybe a link to this thread showing how dedicated so many readers were in making this happen would be a good idea. The whole thing from concept to execution is here. All the ideas, all the passion, everything that did and didn't make it into the ad. This might be the perfect plsce to bring them. Then once they get here, it's up to you to keep them amazed.
I sent a pic of one of my cars. When I saw the proposed copy I figured maybe you didn't like the pic for some reason or were looking for certain types of cars or pics.
NOT A TA said:JG Pasterjak said:Raze (Forum Supporter) said:NOT A TA said:Also think less GRAPHIX and more subscribers car pics would be good. Show them what members have. I know there's folks here with cool looking open wheel cars, high end sports cars, etc.
JG asked everyone who put in to send him pics of their cars, not sure everyone saw that post a couple pages back...
Yeah I used every picture I got sent. If you want to get in on the action, email me a pic with the subject line (all caps): GRM MESSAGE BOARD AD ROUND 2.
jg@grassrootsmotorsports.com.
I can hold things until about first thing Wednesday morning then I have to get it back up here and approved so it can go in the digital files headed for the printer. I'll look through some of that other copy and see there's some pieces we can pull from there into our current text and not bloat it up too much or things start losing their impact.
So: Action Items: Gimme more car pix, and I will at least review some of the other copy for a seamless fittment with what's there.
Last question: Should there be a direct call to action> Like, it says buy ads, but maybe a link to this thread showing how dedicated so many readers were in making this happen would be a good idea. The whole thing from concept to execution is here. All the ideas, all the passion, everything that did and didn't make it into the ad. This might be the perfect plsce to bring them. Then once they get here, it's up to you to keep them amazed.
I sent a pic of one of my cars. When I saw the proposed copy I figured maybe you didn't like the pic for some reason or were looking for certain types of cars or pics.
Probably got lost in the shuffle because I immediately put it in my personal fantasy folder. I'll make sur eit gets in for round 2. I've gotten a few other great shots that have sent me to Craigslist with dumb ideas, too. This job can be dangerous.
I didn't write my stuff because I thought it (or something like it) should be in an ad. I wrote it because I am pissed off that certain companies (mostly car manufacturers) have an awfully myopic view of who we are and what we buy. I understand many of the companies who buy ads in the two mags have problems of their own right now, especially since racing is not racing. I'm talking about companies who don't like us because we're not particularly interested in taking a 40,000-dollar bite. I guess 500 bucks at a time isn't enough.
I would have sent pics but apparently my old archive is gone. (frowny face)
In reply to NOT A TA :
I sent one of my car as well. It was the only one I had that wasn't taken by someone else. But it isn't exactly a jaw-dropping photo.
I really like the copy, JG, but also agree that it doesn't show up well in a browser-size. Suggestion from a designer (but not a graphic designer), what if there were fewer fade-in lines at the top allowing to increase font size for the text at the bottom?
I also might have an E30 or Impala SS picture I can throw in if you want it.
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