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8valve
8valve Reader
12/12/19 1:37 p.m.
Totally agree. I guess, and this is me being totally naive, I trust my cell phone carrier a tiny, tiny bit more than a company that specializes in GPS systems designed to facilitate vehicle repossessions. Still, gotta wonder who has that data and what is being done with it? 

Ha. The carrier is 100% giving up your info.  With the tiny shady company you may actually have a shot at your data not being shared and used. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/12/19 2:29 p.m.
BoxheadTim said:
irish44j said:

All of our cars have GPS trackers, no matter how old they are: 

The big difference being that you can turn that one off. That's harder with a dealership installed device that you don't know exists or if you do, where it is.

I could have sworn there was a news story (and accompanyning video, the guy with the thick mustache? Can't remember who) that ran some different tests showing that turning off the GPS on your phone doesn't actually do anything. 

Their travel route was still perfectly logged. 

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UberDork
12/12/19 3:07 p.m.
z31maniac said:
rslifkin said:
z31maniac said:
bigdaddylee82 said:

I would be demanding the dealer replace the wiring harness they hacked up to install the Orwellian device.

I would have just returned the truck.

Same here.  When they failed to remove it, that means they failed to meet the terms of the deal and I'd be expecting them to take the truck back.  But actually, because of the potential wiring harness hacking, I probably wouldn't have bought the truck in the first place once I knew that thing had been installed.  

The wiring harness is my big thing too. Even though it *shouldn't* cause a problem I can see something happening and the dealer blaming some modification on you vs what they had installed. 

That’d also be a concern of mine.  Would be infuriated if the manufacturer denied warranty work because the dealership hacked up the wiring harness

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
12/12/19 4:09 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

 "Hmm, Mr. Wallens, we see that you spend a lot of time at headbanger shows, so your health insurance rates are going up."

 

FTFY

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/12/19 9:34 p.m.
Jerry From LA said:
David S. Wallens said:

 "Hmm, Mr. Wallens, we see that you spend a lot of time at headbanger shows, so your health insurance rates are going up."

 

FTFY

Worthy trade. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/17/19 8:32 p.m.

Some related reporting from The Washington Post.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
12/17/19 8:37 p.m.

I'm curious, are there any vauable or hackable components inside these devices?

 

I mean, they gave it to you for free, so why not play with the pieces?

 

Kind of like when people go all "Awesome!  I got a free boot!  Let me tow my car somewhere I can work on it and disassemble it"

Will
Will UltraDork
12/18/19 7:09 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:
Apexcarver said:

lets not start on stores requiring a phone number/email/etc to make a purchase...

This is literally the only thing that Radio Shack was ever ahead of the curve on.

I assume Radio Shack is still sending mail to me at the address I gave them--1060 West Addison, Chicago 60613.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
12/18/19 7:50 p.m.

could you mount it to a cross country big rig truck ?

Or a Train ?

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle SuperDork
12/18/19 7:55 p.m.

Sure seems easier than one trick pulled by a small town cop (who was also the weekend plant supervisor in my buddy's machine shop) on the east side of Akron, OH in the 1980's.  
 

They would place tape on headlights of vehicles parked outside of the local tavern. Two miles away, the tape had a very obvious visible signature as the car approached... that town had some pretty spectacular DUI revenue. 

b13990
b13990 Reader
12/19/19 7:14 p.m.

Reminds me of that LoJack crap. Can't stand those fricks.

Brake_L8
Brake_L8 Reader
12/20/19 2:27 p.m.
Knurled. said:

I'm curious, are there any vauable or hackable components inside these devices?

 

I mean, they gave it to you for free, so why not play with the pieces?

 

Kind of like when people go all "Awesome!  I got a free boot!  Let me tow my car somewhere I can work on it and disassemble it"

I'm not sure! I did keep the little device, and the only wires that come off of it are for +12V and ground so it's easy enough to get powered. I'll have to pop the box open and see what's inside.

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