Absolutely pass. This model is a dime a dozen, no resale not worth restoring. If you want to gamble look at the neat stuff. Airstream, BMW, stuff like that. Get something that is worth parting out if all else fails. My 40 year old GMC was worth 5K in parts and scrap metal when the frame rusted out. A fleetwood is just scrap metal.
Call Freiburger and Dulcich (and/or ViseGripGarage GUY), they have tons of experience with attempting to limp something vehicular from one place to another. Usually with lots of overheating thrown in.
In reply to EvanB :
I managed to get a 56 bus that hadn't been driven in 12 years home. It was 1100 miles away. You got this.
Worst case, snag a boat tank and plumb it to the carb with a cheap fuel pump.
Well it was a bust. Main issue was the clear title in her name turned out to be a Pennsylvania title signed over to her but never transferred. Otherwise it started up with a good battery I brought along, pretty sure it would have made it home with just gas added to the tank. It was very empty, she said the last time she drove it she was going to get gas when it died and she had it towed back to the storage lot.
The "new" tires were 2015 date code, some exterior panels were delaminating at the bottom and some of the rear seams looked questionable. Other minor stuff that could be fixed but I decided I'd be better off selling more stuff to save up money and buy one in better shape.
I was excited to see this near the top and then disappointed. I hate people and I hate to have to remember to now ask for a picture of the title, which they likely won't do thinking *I'm * the scammer......
In reply to glueguy (Forum Supporter) :
I did ask for a picture of the title but she said she was at work and assured me it was clear and in her name. Decided to risk it knowing that may be an issue and turns out it was.
That blows. I was hoping for an adventure story!
Why people can't just get their paperwork in order when they buy E36 M3 amazes me. Granted, it took me a while to get around to transferring the Biturbo title, but I sure as hell wasn't going to try to sell it without.
If you're still looking, mine is back on the market after the guy never showed up with the money and is probably less of a project 😁. It ain't perfect but it does run.
wae said:That blows. I was hoping for an adventure story!
Why people can't just get their paperwork in order when they buy E36 M3 amazes me. Granted, it took me a while to get around to transferring the Biturbo title, but I sure as hell wasn't going to try to sell it without.
If you're still looking, mine is back on the market after the guy never showed up with the money and is probably less of a project 😁. It ain't perfect but it does run.
If she had the title I probably would have driven it home and dealt with the issues as they came up, but that was enough of a hurdle for me to pause and wonder if that's how I really want to start out my RV ownership. May be better to get one trip down before doing major repairs.
I am very tempted by yours, unfortunately I'm only about halfway to your asking price until I get some more motorcycles and a trailer sold.
PA titles always ruining the fun.
PA is an "inspection" state. I don't know what that will mean for an RV (but im sure Curtis knows!)
If we can get the answer of what actions she needs to take, this might be good info to share with the seller.
My guess is she has an albatros that now needs to be driven to PA where it needs to be proven that it is roadworthy.
In reply to John Welsh :
It was notarized when she bought it from the previous owner and her info is filled out as the buyer. All she would need to do is take it to the (Ohio) BMV so they can do the out of state inspection, then go to the title office to transfer the title in her name. I explained the process to her, not necessarily difficult but not something I'm sticking around all day for while she gets it taken care of.
In reply to EvanB :
When she titles it in her name she'll need to pay sales tax based on the purchase price that was on the title when she bought it. Do you happen to see that price?
As a guess, if it was $10k and Greene County is 6.75% then she needs $675 plus a few bucks to get it titled in he name...lets call it $700. I think that then is your price offer. Join her at the title office (which will have to be M-F before 9:00 - 4:30 likely) Pay the money directly to the title office and she needs no money with her to make this transaction happen. Then while there, get it titled into your name.
Solve her problem of making this thing go away because it aint going away any easier to anyone else.
smart move, the RV market has returned to pre covid pricing, lots of stuff out there for a reasonable price. But the sub 10K inventory can be sketchy.
John Welsh said:In reply to EvanB :
When she titles it in her name she'll need to pay sales tax based on the purchase price that was on the title when she bought it. Do you happen to see that price?
As a guess, if it was $10k and Greene County is 6.75% then she needs $675 plus a few bucks to get it titled in he name...lets call it $700. I think that then is your price offer. Join her at the title office (which will have to be M-F before 9:00 - 4:30 likely) Pay the money directly to the title office and she needs no money with her to make this transaction happen. Then while there, get it titled into your name.Solve her problem of making this thing go away because it aint going away any easier to anyone else.
But, but... "you can just go get a title". Ask anyone on F. B. M. They won't explain HOW, but apparently it SO easy 
I like your plan. She wouldn't go for it (she already is willing to tell any lie she needs to, so I'm she "knows what's shes gots)
But, by being dishonest, she'll find someone dumb enough to scam with it.
I think you dodged a bullet.
Continuing the bad ideas I shouldn't buy:
Would love a GMC motorhome, should be a couple miles from me based on map, would get expensive quick.
MONGO! Bad idea.
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If the GMC has a 455, it might be decent.
If it's got the wheezing Olds 403 with the windowed main bearing webs, I'd avoid it.
Being a 75 it should be a 455
I also bought a 90 bounder at one point for $1,700. We drove it from west palm beach, to Montauk, on to Maine and then back home...with a 7 and 8 year old. It was a crazy trip with multiple blowouts, a set of lost keys. Burning the house loom in half on the LIE and more. It was a stressful trip and one of the best 2 months of my life.
You are spot on with the GMC. An external fuel pump and gas can will get you home, but bump your credit card limit from there. Steel wheels have an issue, not sure if they are useable. Buy used alcoas and tires, a few grand there. Airbag system bags NLA, but upgrades are available. Front wheel bearings are a common issue but parts are out there as well as upgrades. Rust in the frame is a huge PITA but there are replacement frames too, just imagine the fun taling the body off! If you spend some time researching the level of support and parts availability is excellent. And it is one of the best driving smooth handling coaches out there. Oh, if you have title issues I have one and will provide it free as incentive.
The first time I went RV shopping I found that nearly every coach was pretty deceptively advertised. Not just by leaving things out, either; there were outright lies told. I asked one particularly awful lady if the glass was intact and uncracked all the way around before I drove for 13 hours to see the coach. She assured me that the windshields were pristine but when I arrived, one of them had a giant crack all the way across it. Given that an RV windshield starts at around $900 and goes (way) up from there, that was one of those non-negotiable things. Did she think that I would go ahead and buy it anyway when I had asked specifically about it? Did she think I just wouldn't notice?
The guy that bought my motorhome yesterday told me he was having the same experience. He said he had put a thousand or more miles on his car in the last couple of weeks looking at coaches that the people said were in good condition and that everything worked, but that were just junk. And these folks would then try to put the hard sell on him.
Right now, prices are trending down. I think some of these sellers are still suffering from some covid pricing delusions. I sincerely think that if I had sold mine back in 2021 or so, I could have gotten close to $10k for it but I just sold it for a little better than half that. I could have held out for a little more, probably, but I know that my $7k FBM asking price was rather aspirational and I'm happy to have the parking spot opened up so I can go shopping in earnest for a replacement. Some of these sellers, though, haven't quite come to grips with reality yet. You're also going into the end of the season so prices always tend to dip a little bit now anyway.
I suspect your winning move will be to find something that is priced a little optimistically with some delam on the sides and a roof that had a leak at one time and has been repaired. Maybe the generator won't start or something like that and it may need some tires. But it'll have a good-running 454 in it and be mostly solid once you clear out all the crap that people seem to think belongs in a camper that they're trying to sell. A Winnebago or Itasca is my favorite in that range since they use a one-piece fiberglass roof that is less prone to leakage - run some eternabond along the J-channels and around the A/C and vent cutouts and you're usually golden. They also are less likely to get punctured by a tree branch - I never worried too much about taking mine down Bitzer's driveway. I bet that in about two months, something that is in similar condition to the one I just sold will have dropped down into your range.
In reply to wae :
Yep, as you mentioned before there will probably be some people who would rather make a deal than winterize the rv they've had listed for sale for the past few months with no interest.
The budget will be higher when I sell my 16' enclosed trailer that is taking up space where a RV would be parked. It's more fun to look at new things to buy than deal with selling stuff I already have though.
In reply to John Welsh :
Probably not, I do like the idea of something more compact but would like the larger space and more comfortable living quarters of a full class A.
In reply to John Welsh :
Although I have bonded with the work truck I just bartered for, to tow my camper, that Class B would suit me great! Doubt I can make it happen, but I may have to try.
In reply to EvanB :
Ha! That's my problem too! I set a hard line for myself that I wouldn't go look at anything until the old one was sold for that very reason.
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