maschinenbau
maschinenbau Reader
10/24/16 1:59 p.m.

This worked well because I wanted the suspension, engine, and trans and nothing else.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Reader
10/24/16 2:00 p.m.

Follow-up question: how do I convince SWMBO to let me keep the carcass outside so I can park my DD in the garage?

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltimaDork
10/24/16 2:12 p.m.

Once you've pushed it into the yard there's not much she can do about it.
Just about to perform similar surgery on the R63, but I have to put it back together when I'm done.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey PowerDork
10/24/16 2:18 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau:

Just be prepared to sleep in it

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
10/24/16 3:06 p.m.

Yes, but I don't make a big mess anymore. Also I cheat and drop the rear subframe at the same time then pick the shell up with a forklift.

DuctTape&Bondo
DuctTape&Bondo Dork
10/24/16 3:23 p.m.

those tail lights, headlights, front bumper etc are worth some money. the SC guys love the later styling revision stuff.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse Dork
10/24/16 4:00 p.m.

I got excited when I saw a SC, then had a smaller boner when I saw 2j...

Promise the misses you'll put a SB350 in it for her to drive. Then it'll be a SBSC.

markwemple
markwemple SuperDork
10/24/16 4:54 p.m.

Owning air cooled Porsches and VWs, is there any other way to pull an engine?

Wall-e
Wall-e MegaDork
10/24/16 5:15 p.m.

Not on purpose but if you fall asleep and run an Escort into a boulder fast enough it can come out that way.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
10/24/16 5:19 p.m.
markwemple wrote: Owning air cooled Porsches and VWs, is there any other way to pull an engine?

You beat me to it!

Will
Will UltraDork
10/24/16 5:26 p.m.

Yup.

evildky
evildky SuperDork
10/25/16 10:33 a.m.

I've done it both ways on honda, I prefer top, I've done it both ways on 3 generations of Z cars and prefer the top. I might feel differently about some of those, especially the Z32 if I had a lift. Also the bottom is the only way on an MR2.

JBasham
JBasham Reader
10/25/16 11:29 a.m.

This is a running debate with the BMW motor swap community, but I don't remember anyone suggesting it this way, just unbolting the front suspension from the body and lifting it off. They suspend the motor, unbolt the mounts, and drop the front subframe crossmember; then lower the motor onto a furniture dolly. That never appealed to me, but your way is interesting. I would definitely consider it in the future for a car that doesn't let me remove the whole front bumper-to-radiator opening.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Reader
10/25/16 12:05 p.m.

This whole process took 5 hours start to finish with 3 people. It was a running driving car before. I don't think I would it again any differently.

edizzle89
edizzle89 Dork
10/25/16 12:48 p.m.
evildky wrote: Also the bottom is the only way on an MR2.

that isnt quite true, but it is the easiest way. When i built the 4age from my aw11 mr2 we took the trans and engine together out of the bottom at the shop at school using a lift. When we put the engine back in it was at my house so we put the trans in through the bottom then dropped the engine in from the top. We did have the manifolds off of it, i dont think it would be possible with them on. it was a real pain in the ass and took 4 people and a lot of pushing and pulling of the engine and trans to get them mated up but we did it.

Tyler H
Tyler H UltraDork
10/25/16 2:49 p.m.
edizzle89 wrote:
evildky wrote: Also the bottom is the only way on an MR2.
that isnt quite true, but it is the easiest way. When i built the 4age from my aw11 mr2 we took the trans and engine together out of the bottom at the shop at school using a lift. When we put the engine back in it was at my house so we put the trans in through the bottom then dropped the engine in from the top. We did have the manifolds off of it, i dont think it would be possible with them on. it was a real pain in the ass and took 4 people and a lot of pushing and pulling of the engine and trans to get them mated up but we did it.

^That's definitely the hard way. Drop the engine and trans to the floor, then use the tow loops to lift the chassis. Slide the engine out the side.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
10/25/16 2:55 p.m.

on my old lumina i unbolted the cradle and sat it on the legs of the cherrypicker. then chained the core support and picked the car up, stands under the car and rolled the whole deal out. bolted the new engine on the cradle and reversed it. roll under, lower car, bolt in cradle, 80 more hp.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy UltraDork
10/25/16 4:36 p.m.

Only way to do it on an old All-Trac

evildky
evildky SuperDork
10/26/16 10:54 a.m.
edizzle89 wrote:
evildky wrote: Also the bottom is the only way on an MR2.
that isnt quite true, but it is the easiest way. When i built the 4age from my aw11 mr2 we took the trans and engine together out of the bottom at the shop at school using a lift. When we put the engine back in it was at my house so we put the trans in through the bottom then dropped the engine in from the top. We did have the manifolds off of it, i dont think it would be possible with them on. it was a real pain in the ass and took 4 people and a lot of pushing and pulling of the engine and trans to get them mated up but we did it.

I'm not saying out the top isn't possible, I'm just saying it's wrong

My last Mr2 (mach 1.5) was a basket case someone clearly took the engine out the top, I spent a lot of time with hammer and dolly straightening out the metal in and around the opening. And when you are stuffing a 3SGTE into an aw11 egen through the bottom is a tough fit that requires tilting the engine until you clean the unibody crossmember.

Huckleberry
Huckleberry MegaDork
10/26/16 11:06 a.m.

I thought this was going to be a metaphor thread about constipation.

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