Although all this whining has reminded me of a car I read about years ago in "European Car". IIRC, it was an early '80s 911 that had a built up, newer twin turbo engine. It was the guys daily driver, and he drove it to the track on street legal drag radials and proceeded to run high 9s, dragging the rear bumper down the track. But I'm sure some of you will pick out something wrong with that car too.
It probably wasn't California emissions compliant with that motor swap.. NOT A STREET CAR!
16vCorey wrote: Although all this whining has reminded me of a car I read about years ago in "European Car". IIRC, it was an early '80s 911 that had a built up, newer twin turbo engine. It was the guys daily driver, and he drove it to the track on street legal drag radials and proceeded to run high 9s, dragging the rear bumper down the track. But I'm sure some of you will pick out something wrong with that car too.
I remember that guy...what was his name?
I remember now. Eddie Bello!
Way back in the 90s, I was working at Maryland International Raceway and Eddie came down for one of the import drag racing events. No trailer.
Eddie Bello ran a chop shop. Not a street car. 
Holy smokes!! I'm glad this wasn't a political thread...
16vCorey wrote: No kidding. It's a good thing that Indiana doesn't have inspections, because most of my junk would fail. If you can legally drive it across the freakin' country, that's enough for me to consider it a street car. I didn't realize we had so many berkeleytards here.
Yeah.... none of mine would pass, for reasons anywhere from failing a sniffer test due to a vaccuum leak/fuel solenoid problem that i don't feel like fixing, to horrific rust, to "Are you berkeleying kidding me, that's your berkeleying EXHAUST?!?!?!!"
Then there's the other end of the spectrum. My bone stock Buick regal would not pass CT inspection--back when they had that--because of a 1/16th-gap/crack in the plastic coating over the metal steering wheel.
A Walmart steering wheel cover made it legal. The fact that said cover could slip was irrelevant.
Paul_VR6 wrote: It probably wasn't California emissions compliant with that motor swap.. NOT A STREET CAR!
You're joking right? I remove all the smog equipment from my 80 vette within a month of passing smog here in cali and it's my daily driver. One of my rationalizations is honestly, that it saves wear and tear on the smog parts. I'm putting hardly any miles on my smog pump so i don't ever have to worry about it failing come test time 
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I used to DD a completely stripped and caged Z28 with open exhaust, got pulled over every so often..... they all asked how fast it was. Never got a ticket. No AC/Heater.
I loved it cept' for the crawling in head first thing, and I stuffed couch pillows in the aluminum racing seat to make it more comfy
Ranger50 wrote: Don't be silly and engage your brain for once in your life and not just for the involuntary reflexes. My next "street" car won't pass your silly street car rules.
Call yourself something else then if you can't run it like you drive it...maybe Outlaw Street Car? Just run with those guys if you think you can. I just think that a car built to do it on the street has more right to the name "street car" than a car that is merely street legal. In my mind, it changes from "street car" to "race car" when you add race fuel, race tires, or a prep'd race track.
Ranger50 wrote: E85 is a pump fuel that is available, but not everywhere, especially here in BFE. But I am going to use it anyways. The nearest commercial E85 "gas" station is 1.5 hrs away over some E36 M3ty roads.
Real good street car plan ya got there. Will it hold enough fuel to make it back to the station? I live in Sprint Car country, and have had drums of methanol delivered right to my shop. Still not something I would consider as a practical fuel for my street car.
Ranger50 wrote: Passing a cop's inspection? Totally subjective to the animal in the pressed blue/brown suit. With today's sewing machines on the road, anything that makes a louder tick gets pulled over. People with non sewing machine vehicles get pulled over for tires all the time with DOT stampings on the sidewall and have available tread.
Getting pulled over is nothing new. They usually just want a better look. Drive away without a citation? You just passed his inspection.
Ranger50 wrote: Riding on a trailer equals disqualification? How about taking your FAMILY to the track to enjoy the "street" car? Plus I don't have the logisitics to bring TWO vehicles everywhere if I goto the track.
Don't you have enough classes already that you can trailer that imaginary car to? I'm pretty sure your family looking out the back window will be calling it a race car anyway. Why should you get a reliability cushion over the guy that really does have to temper his decisions with the reality that his car has to get him back home?
Ranger50 wrote: In addition, if you saw what I drove on the streets in 2000-01, you wouldn't call it a street car, but it got street driven EVERYWHERE. It had no heat, no AC, barely working PS, full exhaust with no cats, rattling tin can from no insulation and sound deadener, rolling on VW front tires and 275/50 drag radials in back, lightweight aluminum drag seat, 700# of excess weight removed, and burning a quart of oil every 200 miles. Some street car eh? Brian
Sounds almost exactly like my car. Gets pulled over all the time, like I said, they usually just want a closer look. Never got a ticket in it yet. I call it a "street car" 'cause thats what it is.
In reply to Weedburner:
OK, your e-penis is bigger then mine. Happy?
Still doesn't make your POS any better then mine.
Brian
PS- Close your mouth when you breathe.
Weedburner wrote: Sounds almost exactly like my car. Gets pulled over all the time, like I said, they usually just want a closer look. Never got a ticket in it yet. I call it a "street car" 'cause thats what it is.
Mine never got pulled over for anything, including the times I left sponsor stickers, vinyl numbers, and polish numbers on all the windows.
Ranger50 wrote: In reply to Weedburner: OK, your e-penis is bigger then mine. Happy? Still doesn't make your POS any better then mine. Brian
HA!
What a lot of people are missing in this thread is that this is an organized competition. As such, it was organised to make money for the organizer. The organizer is free to crown the winner with whatever tittle he wants. The winner within the competing group is entittled to wear the crown as a sign of triumph withing this defined group.
The competitors played by the rules that were put forth and the results were what they were.
If someone feels that they have a contest that is more broadly appealing, there is nothing stopping them from organizing the event and crowning their own champion.
I for example, firmly believe that golf should only be played at night in a cactus field. Any day, its gonna catch on.
16vCorey wrote: Although all this whining has reminded me of a car I read about years ago in "European Car". IIRC, it was an early '80s 911 that had a built up, newer twin turbo engine. It was the guys daily driver, and he drove it to the track on street legal drag radials and proceeded to run high 9s, dragging the rear bumper down the track. But I'm sure some of you will pick out something wrong with that car too.
Something like this?
http://www.streetfire.net/video/old-school-porsche-pulls-the-wheels-off-the-ground_29028.htm
Appleseed wrote: Fastest or quickest. I think of Big Red. 200 mph in April of 88.
One of my all time top 10 favorite cars from the first time I read about it 10-15 years ago in relation to the Silver State Classic. It was the same year some guys ran a volvo 850 turbo wagon with some basic IPD stuff: remap, exhaust, sway bars, and good dampers. They ran with 4 or 5 guys in the car at a pretty good clip. Big Red won that year. Did it win last year? I bet it could.
There are a few six and seven second cars driven on the street in Flint. The blue camaro runs low to mid sevens on the strip and quite well on I-475.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dZo9stFXvI
Wowzers, people!
Would you kiss your mothers good night with those mouths? Jeez!
This all reminds me of the time that a STREET CAR we built ran it's first nine second ET 9.99's to be exact. As proud pappas, we shared our news with the message board world. One brilliant individual commented that 9.99 isn't a nine second ET, it's a ten second ET.
Really? Now I need to ask permission to call a nine a nine and a street car a street car.
Mikey52_1 wrote:
Maybe not MY mother but...
I would think that if you could get it registered, inspected and insured it would be a street car. When i was a kid my dad built up his 70 Monte Carlo to race at local circle tracks. It had a roller cammed Big Block he got cheep when the Nascar Modifieds went to small blocks, a welded 12 bolt rear a hi stall torque converter, and a bunch of suspension mods and a bit of stagger so it only wanted to turn left. It was still his only street car, and mom's car whenever her's was in the shop. Though I doubt mom liked taking us to school in it as much as we liked going in it.
Debate is good. Namecalling is bad. If you can't express yourself without cutting down your neighbor, I'll e-duct tape your e-mouth shut. 
It's way cooler around here when we play nice.
Looking at you, Weedburner. Looking at you, Ranger50.
Please carry on.
NOHOME wrote: What a lot of people are missing in this thread is that this is an organized competition. As such, it was organised to make money for the organizer. The organizer is free to crown the winner with whatever tittle he wants. The winner within the competing group is entittled to wear the crown as a sign of triumph withing this defined group.
Like baseball and the world series even though 29 of the 30 teams are in the same country?
I know plenty of people who run slicks on the street. Hell one guy in my hometown took his driving test in a Datsun pickup with a 454 big block and drag slicks and passed. Awesome cars.
Rusnak_322 wrote:NOHOME wrote: What a lot of people are missing in this thread is that this is an organized competition. As such, it was organised to make money for the organizer. The organizer is free to crown the winner with whatever tittle he wants. The winner within the competing group is entittled to wear the crown as a sign of triumph withing this defined group.Like baseball and the world series even though 29 of the 30 teams are in the same country?
Rusnak:
YOU get it!
How 'bout that "Miss Universe" contest eh?
If it is your contest, you get to call it whatever you want and make up the rules as you go along. Methinks its called "Capitalism".
Check out some of these cartoons competing at this weekend's "Street Car Supernationals" in 'Vegas... http://www.streetcarsupernationals.com/pscontend.html
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