Ford V Honda

My wife's Honda is a 2013 CRV AWD with 113,000 miles on it. 
  My Ford F 150 is a  2016 STX regular cab 6&1/2 bed. 4WD V8 5.0. Normal whistles and bells. 
 Both have winter Blizzacks and Summer all seasons. Near new. 
     The really Bizzarre thing is the Honda averages 23.6 mpg  while the Ford  pick up averages 22.4 mpg. 
     It's time to get a new EV 

    SWMBO  wants a Tesla.  I want the new F150 EV 

   Chances are great we get both.   Wife's new promotion affords us the opportunity. 
My natural inclination is Happy wife, Happy life.  But she's feeling guilty  and wants me to get something first. 

That's a weird position to be in. I don't think you can even get a lightning yet. Put a deposit on one and tell her you've effectively gotten it and then go Tesla shopping with her.

So now you're bringing the XJS to the challenge!?!?

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

Wrong time of year and I'd rather spend that money on wheel to wheel. ( I didn't get a pay raise)

Happy Wife Happy Life is toxic and untrue lol

If y'all want both and can afford both, then why not? You've lived a long life and worked hard for decades. Enjoy what you can. 

frenchyd said:

The really Bizzarre thing is the Honda averages 23.6 mpg  while the Ford  pick up averages 22.4 mpg. 

Now that you have a baseline of both for their respective usage, try switching vehicles for a week or two and see the real difference.

yupididit said:

Happy Wife Happy Life is toxic and untrue lol

If y'all want both and can afford both, then why not? You've lived a long life and worked hard for decades. Enjoy what you can. 

Seconded! You clearly have the cash, why not berkeley around and find out? Besides, the Lightning EV ain't out yet.

In reply to Cactus :

I'm worried that the first years production might be sold. A day after they announced it Ford already had 20,000 deposits. 

How much driving do you actually do to make up the difference of better gas mileage versus cost of a new car?

In reply to Driven5 :

We do regularly. The Ford is still quiet and smooth while her Honda is comparatively a rattletrap.  
     I'm very surprised at that. When I first sold HondaCivics.   They were quiet and smooth. That quality got me a large number of repeat and referral  sales.  
   There is no comparison with regard power.  The Ford pickup feels more like a muscle car with solid handling. And that's in spite of it being a 4x4. 
   The Honda is nimble and easier to get in  and out of.  The Ford I feel like I'm climbing into a semi.  The View out of the Pickup is better and better visibility. I hate how stupid High theFord is.  

In reply to frenchyd :

None of which has anything to do with the equivalency you drew between them on fuel economy. If you're going to compare the two on fuel economy, it needs to be same driver and same usage. Anything else is completely and totally meaningless.

Tom1200 said:

How much driving do you actually do to make up the difference of better gas mileage versus cost of a new car?

Well we are approaching retirement. They both will be paid off before retirement. Our goal is to minimize cash out during retirement. Realistically that's for about 10-15 years after retirement. 
    It's not only fuel but oil changes, brake jobs etc.  roughly that's $2500 a year each.   Or $5000/ year. Her's requires more maintenance  than mine. Function of age. 
     That's unlikely to remain that high.  She works from home now and in retirement I won't have commute miles,  but we will have more social miles. 
          The potential of rising gas prices isn't calculated nor is the unknowns of Maintenance  on EV's yet to be acquired. 
     We do have extremely low electricity rates.  In the summer our electric bills ( including A/C ) seldom reach $40 a month. And that includes my wife's predilection to leave lights on during the day. The kitchen and breakfast nook has 28lights left on all day until bedtime.  

Driven5 said:

In reply to frenchyd :

None of which has anything to do with the equivalency you drew between them on fuel economy. If you're going to compare the two on fuel economy, it needs to be same driver and same usage. Anything else is completely and totally meaningless.

 We interchange between drivers. So it's really more of a vehicle average. I may take the Honda to work She may use the Pickup to pick up garden stuff. 
   More and more I'm doing the driving though. 

I don't need a truck or an EV...but I sure do want an F-150 EV!  It ticks a lot of boxes for a do-it-all vehicle. (as long as I tow a race car with it)

Hauling the race car 350 miles to Elkhart lake will require a recharge  but I probably could have a nice meal during the charging period.  
    I'm a little worried about  drowning the motor during the launch of my big cruiser. But the way I see it  driving through the salt brine  we have during the 6 months of arctic winter up here on the frozen Tundra is likely a lot worse than a little fresh water dip for a few minutes. 

I would tend to shy away from buying the first year of a new model, especially new and technologically advanced vehicles. I know a bit too much about how the sausage is made with OEMs.  

Tesla has had their stuff out on the roads for awhile and most of the models are broken in. Well, notwithstanding using their customers as software beta testers... 

My mom had a 2004 CR-V. I've driven the same truck you have. I'd definitely keep the F150 and trade in the CR-V on the Tesla.

In reply to tremm :

You bring up valid points.  Except I'm sure I won't be up to learning to deal with new technology in my 80's. 
 As far as First year of a new model, you may have a valid point.  Jaguar always used new owners as testers.  But that didn't stop Jaguar from introducing some fabulous new models that today are  in extreme demand. 
     I'm confident that Ford motor company can't risk their biggest profit center on an untested and unproven vehicle.  It's not like last month they said, Gee let's build an electric pickup!  I'm sure as they saw how eagerly the first Tesla's were sold  they started planning for this fall. 
 Remember GM introduced EV's almost two decades ago. 

In reply to frenchyd :

There are a ton of product integration issues at play that crop up only once they are out in the wild. These newer cars, evs especially, are a multitude more complex than jaguars you are thinking about. Ford is likely best of the big 3, but I would still have pause and use it as a reason to get the Tesla and let the lightnings get some fleet mileage under their belts. Gm may have done the ev1, but it was primitive and completely different engineering wise to the bolt. Ford only has short mach e time under their belts, unless you count hybrids.

clutchsmoke said:

My mom had a 2004 CR-V. I've driven the same truck you have. I'd definitely keep the F150 and trade in the CR-V on the Tesla.

I like your idea.  Part of me wants a F150 EV  too much. But the practical side of me says  that what I have now will last me the rest of my life and even if my fear of gas prices dramatically increasing. It should be OK for my reduced usage.  
   So now the question is which side of me wins?