Storz
Storz HalfDork
8/9/12 1:11 p.m.

That is so incredibly cool.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet Dork
8/9/12 1:20 p.m.

I think that looks like a lot of fun. I'd much rather have that little thing than a regular ATV!

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
8/9/12 1:25 p.m.

There isn't much more info available.

Simply put, if they come out with an actual championship with sponsorship (ie they put someone in a GRC car for an event or something like that), it will thrive.

VW, besides their 2013 WRC commitment, has also stated they want to compete in the GRC next year, as well as global xgames.

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stumpmj
stumpmj Dork
8/9/12 1:41 p.m.

I'm in the same boat a lots of people. If they anounce a real series with lots of race dates I can make (plus maybe a class with Rally America), the Locost will go on hold, the Z will be sold, and I'll have one in my garage. I'm NOT buying one without a guaranteed place to play with one.

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
8/9/12 2:14 p.m.
stumpmj wrote: I'm NOT buying one without a guaranteed place to play with one.

This. It looks like a neat idea... but right now could suffer from the chicken & egg issue.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
8/9/12 2:21 p.m.
Ian F wrote: This. It looks like a neat idea... but right now could suffer from the chicken & egg issue.

The thing that makes this look more realistic, is a THRIVING race shop (Rhys Millen Racing) is behind it. It's kind of like when Ken Block or Tanner Foust do something, it tends to get done. I have some faith this won't be thrown by the wayside. Rallycross is very potentially THE next big thing in North American racing. Rhys would have quite the firm grip on people entering the sport if he set this up properly!

Jaynen
Jaynen Reader
8/9/12 3:50 p.m.

It will all depend on Rhys Millens ability to build support more than years of Trophy Karts now

At least Trophy Karts have places to race out here in the SW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4SYqgdEMPc

I can tell you which one looks more fun to me :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znngjNHYOfc

Jaynen
Jaynen HalfDork
10/8/12 12:52 p.m.

So they have released some more videos now and I have to say it is growing on me. The big question is where will you be able to race it/use it and can it work for tarmac and dirt

http://vimeo.com/45730041

http://vimeo.com/50993330

RossD
RossD UberDork
10/8/12 4:25 p.m.

Thats pretty cool.

Slightly off topic: I was thinking someone should make a Formula F500 style car based on a Banshee style of ATV. Use as much of the donor ATV as possible. Develope a kit and a race series.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
10/8/12 5:03 p.m.

Too bad it sounds so crap. If I heard this outside I'd think it was the landscapers with their leafblowers. Looks fun though.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce HalfDork
10/8/12 5:09 p.m.

Depends where I can run. Give me a car that I can rallycross, autocross and run at the local oval with just setup and tire changes and the $10k price sounds like a bargain.

Autolex
Autolex Dork
10/8/12 7:16 p.m.

WANT!

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
10/8/12 8:42 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce:

That's a pretty cool idea. Can't a WRX fit the bill?

mazdeuce
mazdeuce HalfDork
10/8/12 9:11 p.m.

In reply to Teh E36 M3:

Pretty much anything can fit the bill. Technically. That's what's really the problem with this. Why spend $10k on something that does what a WRX will already do, unless it's a) fast, b) has very cheap consumables and c) gives you a chance to run even more than you could in a street car based toy.

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg HalfDork
10/8/12 11:21 p.m.

it would be cool to have this as a dual purpose rig, rallyX when the opportunity presents itself, then throw some lower/stiffer valved/stiffer springed shocks on it and autocross it for E36 M3's and giggles, although it would be a nice touch if the SCCA threw it in F-mod (with the Legends) or D/E-mod (with all the other car-lookin critters trying to hit cones in big parkinglots) so it wouldn't be SO totally outclassed in B-mod. of course... throw it on a gokart track with some tight turns...

Jaynen
Jaynen HalfDork
10/9/12 8:50 a.m.

Yeah I am in the same camp as you guys regarding what it would take to make it worthwhile

If you could get an autoX class for it, a rallyX class for it, and maybe some short course/motocross/stage rally events as well. On their site it does say depending on configuration it can still have like 15 inches of wheel travel so maybe you could set it up to run baja like terrain

Bill Caswell just posted up about it and seemed pretty excited. If you could run Stage Rally for 10k it would still come down to consumables plus are there any single seat classes for Stage?

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Dork
10/9/12 8:52 a.m.

Needs the power and soundtrack of a liter bike engine.

Jaynen
Jaynen HalfDork
10/9/12 9:01 a.m.

They are working on 600 and 800cc versions I think. I am assuming similar to FFR kits their goal is to use an entire donor vehicle to keep costs down. Much as how people use litre bike motors to convert side by sides I am sure it could be done

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/9/12 9:03 a.m.

That is kinda awesome...

singleslammer
singleslammer HalfDork
10/9/12 9:48 a.m.

What kind of tires do you think they are running? I need some short tires for my build.

Jaynen
Jaynen HalfDork
10/9/12 12:36 p.m.

ATV tires, the base of the kit is a Yamaha YFZ-450R quad

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
10/9/12 1:37 p.m.
Jaynen wrote: If you could run Stage Rally for 10k

You can already do that. In the US, people will build you basic rallycars for that much.

The whole purpose of this is to make it easier to get into the sport (from what I can tell). This only works if there is a legitimate championship with backing, sponsors, and contingency money/prizes. Otherwise, it's just another play thing.

Jaynen
Jaynen HalfDork
10/9/12 1:46 p.m.

Oh I know you can by a car off specialstage for that kind of money. For me living in the southwest however if it could do parking lot cones, dirt cones, and be taken to the desert to blast trails and sandwashes it might be worthwhile

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