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rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
3/28/12 1:52 p.m.

Alright going to take my first stab at a VS thread.

I figure to help level the playing field at least power wise I would go with the Super Coupe instead of the Turbo Coupe when going up against the GN.

Personally I think the GN has it in the bag, though I have seen some fast SCs out there.

VS

Toyman01
Toyman01 UberDork
3/28/12 1:57 p.m.

That's not even fair.

GN for the win any way you look at it.

Javelin
Javelin UltimaDork
3/28/12 1:57 p.m.

Oh please, GN every day and twice on Sunday.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
3/28/12 1:58 p.m.

GN

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
3/28/12 1:58 p.m.

Grand National. Linked to more famous race cars (Buddy Ingersol's shaking up Pro Stock), more high powered builds out there, much more menacing appearance.

mndsm
mndsm UberDork
3/28/12 1:59 p.m.

Yeah.... not fair to the t-chicken. GN all the way and back.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
3/28/12 2:01 p.m.

Does the GN have anything going for it other than the engine? I hate the T-Bird and don't like the GN.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
3/28/12 2:04 p.m.

GN, easier than the one with the Starion in it.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/28/12 2:04 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Does the GN have anything going for it other than the engine?

G-Body suspension parts are damn cheap and it looks like it should be driven by Darth Vadar. What else do you want?

I bet you can't guess which one I am voting for.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
3/28/12 2:07 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Does the GN have anything going for it other than the engine? I hate the T-Bird and don't like the GN.

As much as I hate to say it the stock handling is nothing to write home about. It is decent, I have driven worse but there is much better out there. That being said you can always throw money at the suspension and it being a popular platform (G Body) there are a growing number of aftermarket sources for some interesting parts to help things along. The chassis was stiffened in a couple ways compared to say my Cutlass though, but there were other things left off that were on other G bodys that could easily be put in.

So what would be more fair game for the GN to hunt? And remember I am talking a regular GN not even getting into GNX territory yet

Javelin
Javelin UltimaDork
3/28/12 2:08 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Does the GN have anything going for it other than the engine? I hate the T-Bird and don't like the GN.

For a RWD Coupe, it has a decent suspension. You can mix-and-match everything GM to make all sorts of coolness with them. They are mostly drag racers, but there have been a few good road-race cars (and lots of roundy-rounders).

Plus you know, one of the greatest engines of all time.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
3/28/12 2:09 p.m.

What else do you want?

Maybe that Trans Am that came with the GN engine. That would be some improvement.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler Reader
3/28/12 2:09 p.m.
mndsm wrote: Yeah.... not fair to the t-chicken. GN all the way and back.

Looks. And the engine.

The only good things about the MN12 platform are the IRS and the looks (though they aren't better than the GN). Other than that, it's a huge, overweight boat that was sold with engines that were either fragile (3.8L in both forms) or terribly choked off (5.0L and the anemic non-PI 4.6L).

GN by a gigantic margin. Not close.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet Dork
3/28/12 2:11 p.m.

Are you kidding?

Grand National. The SC doesn't have a chance.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
3/28/12 2:17 p.m.

I'll take the motorcyle in the background of the GN picture.

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
3/28/12 2:18 p.m.

REALLY?! Is this even a question?

GN all the way!!!!!

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UltraDork
3/28/12 2:52 p.m.

this thread is too obvious.

i propose a formal thread jack:

GN vs. Turbo Mark III Supra

DrBoost
DrBoost UltraDork
3/28/12 2:56 p.m.

GN. A good buddy of mine had a SC that he was constantly putting money into. It was fast! The problem was nothing else in the drivetrain could handle anything more than stock HP. The carnage flowed down the powertrain. The trans kept breaking. He spend $$$ to get it built, then the drive shaft broke twice. Had a custom d-shaft built, then the ring gear got real smooth. Then the axles broke.
I like both of them, but there's no contest, unless money is a factor. I can't afford a clapped out GN.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UberDork
3/28/12 2:59 p.m.
belteshazzar wrote: this thread is too obvious. i propose a formal thread jack: GN vs. Turbo Mark III Supra

Now that's better! Supra for me.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
3/28/12 3:00 p.m.

Easiest one yet! Grand national!

mndsm
mndsm UberDork
3/28/12 3:08 p.m.

Ima wait til the mk3 and the GN have their own thread.

Cotton
Cotton Dork
3/28/12 3:09 p.m.

not a fair fight at all.....GN is already a legend and a decent GNX is bringing 80-90k.

JFX001
JFX001 SuperDork
3/28/12 3:22 p.m.

GN's are so choice. There were two issues, handling and braking.

Javelin
Javelin UltimaDork
3/28/12 3:30 p.m.
belteshazzar wrote: this thread is too obvious. i propose a formal thread jack: GN vs. Turbo Mark III Supra

Still GN by three and half miles.

Moparman
Moparman HalfDork
3/28/12 3:31 p.m.

GN

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