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Apis_Mellifera
Apis_Mellifera Reader
2/4/13 2:07 p.m.

I continue to scan old magazines. The oldest article I have by Tim - Auto-X 1988

And the first story on the TR3 from this issue:

Nashco
Nashco UltraDork
2/4/13 2:18 p.m.

Cover: Neon, Civic, BMWs, RX7, Datsun Z, Corvette, and Pantera. Ok, so the Pantera is odd man out, but otherwise the same cars would be completely unsurprising on today's cover as well. Interesting.

Bryce

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/4/13 2:39 p.m.

True story: That BMW cover was not shot on a race track.

That's really all I should say about it.

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
2/4/13 2:56 p.m.

Doesn't seem like that long ago.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
2/4/13 2:57 p.m.

Palm Coast, maybe?

Sure would like a copy or a scanned image of issue number 2. I wrote a C Stock comparison article in that one.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
2/4/13 3:14 p.m.

Funny to see ads with no websites listed!

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Dork
2/4/13 3:20 p.m.

In reply to jstein77:
What year and month would that be?

Woody
Woody MegaDork
2/4/13 3:30 p.m.

Oh man...I have to go up to the attic...

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Intern
2/4/13 3:32 p.m.

Woah, it was monthly back then!

banzaitoyota
banzaitoyota New Reader
2/4/13 3:45 p.m.

Auto-X!

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/4/13 3:50 p.m.
Apis_Mellifera wrote:

Anybody else think this picture makes Tim look like Kenneth Branagh?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltraDork
2/4/13 3:52 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: True story: That BMW cover was not shot on a race track. That's really all I should say about it.

Is that the famous 'test track' where you also shot the Lexus race cars later on, it later became a subdivision and one of the staff now/did live on one of the corners?

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
2/4/13 3:55 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: True story: That BMW cover was not shot on a race track. That's really all I should say about it.
Is that the famous 'test track' where you also shot the Lexus race cars later on, it later became a subdivision and one of the staff now/did live on one of the corners?

I was thinking the same exact thing....

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/4/13 4:05 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: True story: That BMW cover was not shot on a race track. That's really all I should say about it.
Is that the famous 'test track' where you also shot the Lexus race cars later on, it later became a subdivision and one of the staff now/did live on one of the corners?

It is not. You know, only three other people know where that was taken: JG (that's him in the 2002), "slippy the clutch boy" (the guy driving the M3 whose real name we forget) and whoever was driving the camera car (Gabe? Donovan?). At what point does the statute of limitations run out for driving a race car on public streets expire?

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
2/4/13 4:17 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote:
Apis_Mellifera wrote:
Anybody else think this picture makes Tim look like Kenneth Branagh?

For some reason he always reminds me of this guy.

turboswede
turboswede PowerDork
2/4/13 4:22 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote:
Beer Baron wrote:
Apis_Mellifera wrote:
Anybody else think this picture makes Tim look like Kenneth Branagh?
For some reason he always reminds me of this guy.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
2/4/13 5:29 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: True story: That BMW cover was not shot on a race track. That's really all I should say about it.
Is that the famous 'test track' where you also shot the Lexus race cars later on, it later became a subdivision and one of the staff now/did live on one of the corners?

Still live here, and it's pretty much a real neighborhood now. There's not a house on every lot—maybe every 8th or 10th—but it' still way too dense for any kind of "journalism."

Man, we had some cool stuff up here, too. Everything from those Lexuses to IT cars and press fleet cars and even the Callaway team with the C7R one evening. THAT is a wacky story. Maybe that'll be my next column.

jg

PS: And the location of the BMW shot is actually rather innocuous, even though laws were probably technically broken.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
2/4/13 5:31 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: Palm Coast, maybe? Sure would like a copy or a scanned image of issue number 2. I wrote a C Stock comparison article in that one.

Hey Jerry, do you happen to remember where in Palm Coast those autocrosses were? That was a little before my time.

And I'll see if I can track down a #2 for you.

jg

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 HalfDork
2/4/13 5:32 p.m.

Looks like an interstate to me.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
2/4/13 5:41 p.m.

Nice stippling!

Apis_Mellifera
Apis_Mellifera Reader
2/4/13 6:58 p.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote: And I'll see if I can track down a #2 for you. jg

Do you guys have hardcopies of every issue from Auto-X on? I recall requesting a back issue sometime around '98 and received a photocopy instead. Apparently, there was only one known copy left.

petegossett
petegossett UltraDork
2/4/13 7:32 p.m.
Apis_Mellifera wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: And I'll see if I can track down a #2 for you. jg
Do you guys have hardcopies of every issue from Auto-X on? I recall requesting a back issue sometime around '98 and received a photocopy instead. Apparently, there was only one known copy left.

Ohhhhh...issue #2. Whew! That makes MUCH more sense...

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
2/4/13 8:08 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to jstein77: What year and month would that be?

I don't remember what month the second issue was, but the year was 1985. March, maybe? Not sure.

I think the Palm Coast events were in '85 and '86.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/4/13 9:14 p.m.

If I'm doing this correctly, here are the coordinates from that shoot:

Latitude, Longitude 29.217429,-81.108112

Note that at the time the interstate interchange, overpass, auto mall, fire house and housing developments didn't exist.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/4/13 10:30 p.m.
Apis_Mellifera wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: And I'll see if I can track down a #2 for you. jg
Do you guys have hardcopies of every issue from Auto-X on? I recall requesting a back issue sometime around '98 and received a photocopy instead. Apparently, there was only one known copy left.

We have at least one or two in the files, and reprints are made from those.

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