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Schermerica
Schermerica
1/16/09 2:38 p.m.

Well, I'm 16 and I'm seriously considering getting a Miata within the next year. Everyone knows the stereotype of it being a chick car, but i really want to get into some auto-cross events. To get to my point, has anyone made a collection of bad ass, and more importantly cheap, mods to man-up a Miata. I've seen some seriously crazy looking miatas online and tracked one down to Grassroots. So does any have some manly miata pics, guides, or mod-websites they know of?

by the way, as a young'n, is it a bad idea for someone without a real income to buy a Miata? There's one in the area for under 3k. After that i wouldn't have much more money for fixing her.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
1/16/09 2:45 p.m.
Schermerica wrote: by the way, as a young'n, is it a bad idea for someone without a real income to buy a Miata? .

you might as well go to Christian summer camp and ask around if anybody loves Jesus.

mw
mw New Reader
1/16/09 2:52 p.m.

Cut off the windshield! There's nothing more manly than having bugs and gravel stuck to your face.

On a more serious note, I would get a roll bar (not a style bar) preferably in black. GRM stickers would help too. A nice set of dark 15" wheels with a 205/5015 tire make it look more manly too.

MitchellC
MitchellC Reader
1/16/09 2:57 p.m.

LS1?

sachilles
sachilles Reader
1/16/09 2:57 p.m.

you could hang some truck nutz off the back.

bravenrace
bravenrace HalfDork
1/16/09 2:57 p.m.

In reply to Schermerica:

I can't help you with pictures, but if somebody knows where to get those exact fender flares, please post it. Thanks!

Schermerica
Schermerica New Reader
1/16/09 3:01 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Schermerica: I can't help you with pictures, but if somebody knows where to get those exact fender flares, please post it. Thanks!

Well that's kind of the point to this thread. I've seen so much cool E36 M3 like that through random pictures, but can't find a source.

you might as well go to Christian summer camp and ask around if anybody loves Jesus.

please elaborate..... Is that just because you don't trust the younger crowd with a car that you love?

belteshazzar
belteshazzar Dork
1/16/09 3:04 p.m.

I mean you came to the wrong place to ask if a miata is a good idea.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
1/16/09 3:06 p.m.

A Miata is a great car. If anyone thinks it makes you gay, you don't want to associate with them.

They are cheap and easy to maintain, and durable enough to not need too much of it.

As for manning one up... if people recognize that it is a genuine performance car, it will quickly get respect. The best way to man one up, is to actually prep it for performance. Don't rice it. Just build it to be what it's supposed to: a track car.

Step 1: Rollbar. You should do this anyway. But there's nothing like a functionally ugly rollbar to tell people you use your car in ways they don't.

Step 1.5: Take your car to Auto-X or track, so that when people give you crap, you can point out that you use your car in ways they don't.

Step B: Wheels and tires. Nothing says "poser" like crappy all-seasons on steelies. Nothing says badass like track tires.

Stage 3: Suspension. Make the car handle better. Miata have a pretty tall stock ride-height. Lowering that makes it look more aggressive. Don't go poser rice-slammed.

Step Pi: Take your car to a sanctioned performance venue, and drive it hard. Then you can legitimately tell people you race.

Step IV: Simple bolt ons. Intake, header, and exhaust. An aggressive, but not ricer-obnoxious exhaust is good.

Step Five: Tasteful Visuals. I like to start with battle scars. I earned them. Then the subtle stickers of a non-poser. Stickers for actual groups like GRM, NASA, and SCCA. I also have little track map stickers for every track I've hit on my door. Subtle, but meaningful. Or, do a good job of painting it in drab primer. Something with more work and care than money. Olive drab is best. There's a guy I know who's done his in camo.

What not to do: Put a wing on. Run crap springs that slam the car goofy low and make it porpoise around. Install an obnoxious fart-can. Drive like a jackass.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
1/16/09 3:13 p.m.

^ I agree with all of it but the opening statement. I know plenty of formerly straight people that turned gay under the ownership of Miata's. . . and stay away from the newer ones. Seems EVERY one of those needs stupid maintenance. . . .

Schermerica
Schermerica New Reader
1/16/09 3:32 p.m.

That's pretty much the path i want to take Salanis. the one in my area is a 90' with 126k miles and hasn't been inspected. I don't know how good that sounds, but then again it's only $2,500

jdmae92
jdmae92 Reader
1/16/09 3:35 p.m.

You can find the flares on this site. I think they look better not molded to the body.

Kramer
Kramer Reader
1/16/09 3:37 p.m.

The only noticible mod I've done to my Miata is a roll bar. I did put a pleather cover on it that matches the tan interior, which (I think) makes the car look much better.

I got a compliment while cruising the Woodward Dream Cruise last fall that my car looked like a track car. The (grown-up) kid driving the Neon was impressed that I really race my car on a track.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
1/16/09 3:42 p.m.

How about you post pictures, and we'll try to identify the cool stuff in view. It might be easier.

Here's the information on the car in question: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2562850 . I have to admit that I would have pegged the flares as a home-built job.

Having rubber worms stuck to the side of the car goes a long way towards making it manly :) And well-chosen graphics can do a lot for not much money. The paint job on my rally Miata emphasizes the wheel arches enough that I've been asked if the car has a widebody.

Here's a manly Miata for you. The Track Dog. At the time, it was a real bad-ass with 350 hp. Now, we get that sort of power out of pump gas street cars. And yes, the wing is real. It was worth 2.5 seconds at Spring Mountain Raceway and it's bolted directly to the frame after going through slots in the trunklid. This car is currently sitting on black steel wheels with snow tires and it looks disturbingly good, like it wants to go eat up the local dirt oval.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
1/16/09 3:46 p.m.
Kramer wrote: I got a compliment while cruising the Woodward Dream Cruise last fall that my car looked like a track car. The (grown-up) kid driving the Neon was impressed that I really race my car on a track.

I got a compliment on my car at the climbing gym. Was chatting with guys and mentioned doing track driving. They said the Miata in the parking lot must be mine, and that they saw the rollbar, exhaust, and rideheight and figured "this was a guy who really knows what he's doing."

Schermerica
Schermerica New Reader
1/16/09 3:52 p.m.

Here's the lip. http://www.racinglifestyle.com/bona10.html I love that stance. It's too low to be realistic, but looks pretty awesome anyways.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
1/16/09 3:57 p.m.

I think you might find the sort of Miata porn you're looking for at ClubRoadster.net.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
1/16/09 4:02 p.m.

Meh, I don't like that look. To me, form follows function. Those rims look like crap, all show and no go. Avoid chrome rims on a Miata.

ArtOfRuin
ArtOfRuin Reader
1/16/09 4:04 p.m.
Schermerica wrote:

All that camber screams "mad tyte dorifto, y0!"

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
1/16/09 4:05 p.m.

Salanis pretty much nailed it, although I'd argue that factory wheels with track tires are pretty dang light and more "hardcore" than new stuff.

Keith is always right, ClubRoadster.net is the source of the best Miata porn. (although they sometimes break the fuction over form rule...)

HunterJP
HunterJP New Reader
1/16/09 4:06 p.m.

The lip is a Garage Vary. Its the one I have.

Honestly, to "man up" a Miata visually, all you really need to do is add a nice front lip, lower the car a bit, and add some meaty tires/wheels. 949Racing has some real nice 15X8 wheels, that look great and are cheap. A roll bar will be the icing on the cake.

Then comes boost and built motors and 6 speeds and racing seats and adding lightness and seat time.... then you just dare someone to call the car girlie. :D

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 Reader
1/16/09 4:14 p.m.

This does it for me, too. Don't know how functional the drop is.... but i don't care.

ArtOfRuin
ArtOfRuin Reader
1/16/09 4:16 p.m.

Schemerica, another thing to consider about "girly cars:" Girls are attracted to them.

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
1/16/09 4:18 p.m.

This should keep you busy for awhile: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/reader-rides/car/mazda/

sachilles
sachilles Reader
1/16/09 4:28 p.m.

I have friend that has an otherwise stock miata(with roll bar). He added those 15x8 949 wheels....their width or offset, really makes the car look nice. The skinny factory meats just don't look purposeful.

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