Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/4/16 10:03 a.m.

I'm thinking about getting a Honda FG110 tiller. I'm not a gardener, but I need to install an invisible fence for the dog and I need to dig a 3 inch deep trench around about an acre of lawn. My plan would be to remove the outer outer pair of tines and just use the inners to cut a 6 inch wide path, probably after a few rainy days so the soil is soft. I might also use the thing as an edger around the driveway and sidewalk when I'm done.

Anybody have any experience with one of these things?

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
1/4/16 10:09 a.m.

I put an invisible fence in using a cheap gas driveway edger. Cuts a nice slot, tuck the wire in, stomp it closed. Worked great and didn't disturb much dirt. If you're planning on edging with it anyway...

EDIT: Looked kinda like this but green:

ggarrard
ggarrard Reader
1/4/16 10:24 a.m.

The cable company used a hand edger to bury about 300ft of new cable from the box to my house. I expected them to use a trencher but he said the hand method was cleaner and ultimately faster. Ultraclyde's suggestion would probably work better than a tiller.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf UltraDork
1/4/16 10:33 a.m.

I have one from Tractor supply it works but not great for new digging just to till in cow poop in a already tilled garden.
I'd rent a ditch witch or pick up a crap chain saw at a flee market.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/4/16 12:19 p.m.
44Dwarf wrote: I'd rent a ditch witch or pick up a crap chain saw at a flee market.

Crap chainsaw is a cool idea, but I'm pretty sure that it would destroy my back.

Looks like I can rent a ditch witch from Home Depot for $75/day. The used Honda tiller was $150 and over an hour away.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy MegaDork
1/4/16 12:31 p.m.

I'd rent, that little tiller is pretty much crap unless retilling loose soil.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf UltraDork
1/4/16 12:31 p.m.

Tie the chain saw to the lawn tractor....

44Dwarf
44Dwarf UltraDork
1/4/16 12:32 p.m.

or find this guy and ask him to demi straight his ice boat... ice boat

java230
java230 Reader
1/4/16 12:56 p.m.

im sure you can rent an edger too. That seems way to easy..

Hal
Hal SuperDork
1/4/16 5:59 p.m.
java230 wrote: im sure you can rent an edger too. That seems way to easy..

I have helped a couple people put in invisible fence using a gas edger. Easy way to do it! One guy had his own edger but the other one rented one for a day for ~$50.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/4/16 6:10 p.m.

I talked to the rental place and they said that they no longer rent edgers to guys putting in invisible fences. Too many rocks around here. They came back damaged every time.

kellym
kellym New Reader
1/4/16 9:07 p.m.
Woody wrote: I talked to the rental place and they said that they no longer rent edgers to guys putting in invisible fences. Too many rocks around here. They came back damaged every time.

but your only edging your lawn......

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/4/16 9:17 p.m.
kellym wrote:
Woody wrote: I talked to the rental place and they said that they no longer rent edgers to guys putting in invisible fences. Too many rocks around here. They came back damaged every time.
but your only edging your lawn......

Agreed, but I still need to get the job done.

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Dork
1/4/16 10:14 p.m.

I've got one of those tillers. Good little machine. I've only used it for tilling, though, so can't opine on your purpose. Mine is sitting in the attic since I now have "people" to do the lawn and garden maintenance.

jstand
jstand HalfDork
1/5/16 6:12 a.m.

I have an edging attachment (with blade and support wheel) for my trimmer that I used to put in my invisible fence.

If you have a trimmer that accepts attachments that may be an option.

It worked well on my 1/3 acre, but might be tough on your back since you are fencing an acre.

Hal
Hal SuperDork
1/5/16 7:21 p.m.
Woody wrote: I talked to the rental place and they said that they no longer rent edgers to guys putting in invisible fences. Too many rocks around here. They came back damaged every time.

Around here they don't ask but they don't rent them with blades on. You have to buy the blade and they don't want it back.

sesto elemento
sesto elemento Dork
1/9/16 10:39 p.m.

Honda didn't make the tiller, suzuki did....

unless you're talking about this

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltimaDork
1/9/16 11:06 p.m.

Aren't old used edgers practically free?

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
1/10/16 3:50 a.m.
Woody wrote: I'm thinking about getting a Honda FG110 tiller. I'm not a gardener, but I need to install an invisible fence for the dog and I need to dig a 3 inch deep trench around about an acre of lawn. My plan would be to remove the outer outer pair of tines and just use the inners to cut a 6 inch wide path, probably after a few rainy days so the soil is soft. I might also use the thing as an edger around the driveway and sidewalk when I'm done. Anybody have any experience with one of these things?

the folk that installed my invisible fence didn't go to that much trouble ... to make sure it would work to the best level of shocking the dog, just barely pushed the wire under the ground ... no where near 3" ... just barely an inch under ground with being sure to have dirt over the wire ... the closer to the surface the better it'll work ... so anything that will scratch the surface and get deep enough to actually be a "ditch" worked quite well

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
1/10/16 3:51 a.m.
ultraclyde wrote: I put an invisible fence in using a cheap gas driveway edger. Cuts a nice slot, tuck the wire in, stomp it closed. Worked great and didn't disturb much dirt. If you're planning on edging with it anyway... EDIT: Looked kinda like this but green:

what he used would be perfect ... though my installers did it by hand

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
1/10/16 3:54 a.m.
ggarrard wrote: The cable company used a hand edger to bury about 300ft of new cable from the box to my house. I expected them to use a trencher but he said the hand method was cleaner and ultimately faster. Ultraclyde's suggestion would probably work better than a tiller.

I did that for several yrs

we wouldn't put your drop in if you insisted on it that shallow ... I had a cable plow and installed at least 6" and preferred to get the wire down closer to 10"-12" ... didn't want to have to come back and patch (if short drop) or completely new full length if that long (because of how much lose signal there is for something that long)

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