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Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 8:07 a.m.

 

surprise AMAZING!!!!

angry ARGH!!!

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
12/4/18 8:25 a.m.

Argh is right. But what on earth does "Surface does not have to be non-level" even mean? I would assume an alignment surface would have to be level, and if a surface is level, it is not non-level, so to me that bullet point is saying that the surface does, indeed, have to be level, which is a pain for the average hobbyist. So... yay?

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 9:46 a.m.

I have to assume it's some sort of typo, because you're right, it ends up being "surface does have to be level" if you translate that gibberish.

The manufacturers even have this particular sentence on their own website in the product description.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/4/18 9:53 a.m.

Chinglish?  

Is the sentence about surface level just a bad language transplation?  

Jay_W
Jay_W Dork
12/4/18 10:20 a.m.

^ LOL best tattoo ever

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 10:28 a.m.

I don't think Chinglish as they are a USA company. I think it's just not being read carefully. I actually emailed them about it and they still didn't get that the sentence is worded badly, but they indicated that the product works on any surface, regardless of whether it's level or not.

Despite the fact that they clarified the intent I still could not let the sentence go uncorrected and just sent another reply even more pointedly addressing the lack of clarity in the wording.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/4/18 10:34 a.m.

Wow, it takes more than one email to explain that the sentence is a double negative.  

 

My faith in the company does not have to be non-good.  

Drop one of the negatives and you get:

  • Surface does not have to be level   
  • or   
  • Surface can be be non-level

 

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 11:05 a.m.

I think the person was a little less than enthused about my asking about the sentence again as this was the response...

Thank you for your input.

 

Are there any questions I can answer about the products?

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk PowerDork
12/4/18 11:16 a.m.

In reply to Harvey :

Why yes there is? Does the surface have to level or non-level?

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
12/4/18 11:19 a.m.

In reply to Harvey :

Perhaps we should gang up on them until the question gets answered. (Anonymously, politely and with NO mention of GRM of course)

 

Edit: I just emailed the company and politely asked them to clarify that portion of the advertisement. 

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 11:26 a.m.
DeadSkunk said:

In reply to Harvey :

Why yes there is? Does the surface have to level or non-level?

I was tempted to ask again, but their first response made it clear enough that the intent was it works even when the surface is not level, but it is kind of frustrating to not have someone acknowledge specifically the error in the wording. I don't get the impression that correcting this is high on their list of todos even though it's damned unclear the way it is worded.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
12/4/18 11:37 a.m.

In reply to Harvey :

Nor is spending $6k on that contraption high on MY to-do list. 

Slippery
Slippery SuperDork
12/4/18 12:13 p.m.

They have very bad reviews. I doubt they are really made in the US. 

See video

Robbie
Robbie UltimaDork
12/4/18 1:11 p.m.

Don't worry, there I.t department is on jt.

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
12/4/18 1:14 p.m.
Robbie said:

Don't worry, there I.t department is on jt.

Took me a spcond.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
12/4/18 1:26 p.m.

Looks like something that might work as well as a fish hook, string and a digital level.

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
12/4/18 1:29 p.m.
Slippery said:

They have very bad reviews. I doubt they are really made in the US. 

See video

Hm, does look a bit poor quality. For $5000 I'd expect some awesome E36 M3.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
12/4/18 9:10 p.m.

For that price, it better come with a pair of Chinese hookers.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
12/4/18 10:10 p.m.

That price gets you a used alignment machine....

stanger_missle
stanger_missle SuperDork
12/4/18 11:54 p.m.

Front toe laser guns is the name of my thrash metal band.

_
_ Reader
12/5/18 1:47 a.m.
stanger_missle said:

Front toe laser guns is the name of my thrash metal band.

Beat me to it. Toe laser guns sounds amazing. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/10/18 10:55 a.m.
stanger_missle said:

Front toe laser guns is the name of my thrash metal band.

Let me know when you're playing here in Florida. 

tomtomgt356
tomtomgt356 Reader
12/10/18 11:02 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:
stanger_missle said:

Front toe laser guns is the name of my thrash metal band.

Let me know when you're playing here in Florida. 

Why wait? A band with that name is worth traveling to see!

purplepeopleeater
purplepeopleeater Reader
12/10/18 11:15 a.m.

CEMB is an Italian company with a long history of making wheel service equipment for the automotive industry much of it branded as Coates. $7,000 is inexpensive for a commercial alignment system.

 

AAZCD
AAZCD Reader
12/10/18 11:23 a.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n5xjURoFwo

The newly unboxed kit in the review clearly has some alignment issues. "Surface does not have to be non-level"  only hints at the control of the quality being not better than it should be.

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