How much would you pay for an AMC concept

TIL pacer window glass was too tall to package inside the doors.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

TIL pacer window glass was too tall to package inside the doors.

The doors are asymmetric, too. The passenger one is longer to allow for easier ingress/egress to the back seat curbside.

Javelin said:

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

TIL pacer window glass was too tall to package inside the doors.

The doors are asymmetric, too. The passenger one is longer to allow for easier ingress/egress to the back seat curbside.

I knew about door length. I always thought that was cool.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

Javelin said:

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

TIL pacer window glass was too tall to package inside the doors.

The doors are asymmetric, too. The passenger one is longer to allow for easier ingress/egress to the back seat curbside.

I knew about door length. I always thought that was cool.

Did you know that the Pacer was supposed to be a FWD rotary? If GM didn't kill their program it would have been one of the earliest domestic FWDs.

Javelin said:

Did you know that the Pacer was supposed to be a FWD rotary? If GM didn't kill their program it would have been one of the earliest domestic FWDs.

I do Remember Hearing that.   It would have been Quite a few Years.. 1976 before the 1981 GM X Body Citation Platform hit the streets.

Those Pacers had a lot of innovation going on that was a bit ahead of it's time.  Think about the average Full size Chevy / Ford Dodge Barges still mulling about when it came out.

Javelin said:

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

Javelin said:

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

TIL pacer window glass was too tall to package inside the doors.

The doors are asymmetric, too. The passenger one is longer to allow for easier ingress/egress to the back seat curbside.

I knew about door length. I always thought that was cool.

Did you know that the Pacer was supposed to be a FWD rotary? If GM didn't kill their program it would have been one of the earliest domestic FWDs.

TIL more Pacer history...  ;-)

I realize that AMC lacked development dollars so their cars were usually "variations on a theme" like how the Gremlin is a "shorty" Hornet.  I always thought that the Pacer was just a re-body or body update of The Gremlin or a variation on the Hornet theme.  

This video implies that it was a mega-investment for AMC toward a clean slate design.  
https://www.vehicledynamicsinternational.com/videos/the-unfortunate-history-of-the-amc-pacer.html

In reply to John Welsh :

It was clean sheet. GM killing the drive train probably bankrupt AMC over it.

Think about how different it would have been if AMC had that thing with 25-30 mpg in 76 while everyone else only had land yachts. 

In reply to Javelin :

25-30 mpg does not fit with rotary :)

im getting strong honda wagovan vibes

As we talk about this AM Van, combined with the Pacer's need to be revolutionary and save the company. Just imagine a less wide front door, maybe a little more wheel base (but not much, if any) and a third row of seats.  Put in a sliding side door and the minivan could have been launched 10 years earlier than Chrysler.  Even better if the Pacer would have met its fwd goal.  

Then, build the machine for both passengers and cargo configs for both 2wd and 4wd.  That would have been a winner...maybe.  

slantsix said:

Javelin said:

Did you know that the Pacer was supposed to be a FWD rotary? If GM didn't kill their program it would have been one of the earliest domestic FWDs.

I do Remember Hearing that.   It would have been Quite a few Years.. 1976 before the 1981 GM X Body Citation Platform hit the streets.

Those Pacers had a lot of innovation going on that was a bit ahead of it's time.  Think about the average Full size Chevy / Ford Dodge Barges still mulling about when it came out.

 

 

 

 

Except Oldsmobile beat that by a decade, and Cord beat it by a few decades.

Javelin said:

Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

Javelin said:

I'd WRX swap it so it drove. 

I thought about that, but I'm not sure there is enough room ahead of the front wheels to fit the Subie engine and trans. 

Who said anything about the front? Didn't you see my concept Pacer model? 

Hmmm, where did I see that scale model AMC Pacer concept car design study that has already been worked out?

In reply to racerfink :

Yes you are correct.

I guess I was thinking about the transverse Engine / Transmission.