In reply to Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) :
Maybe you need to buy a utility trailer for now and truck shop when test drives are doable. I wouldn't buy a vehicle I couldn't test drive.
Unless it was a '56 bus.
In reply to Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) :
Maybe you need to buy a utility trailer for now and truck shop when test drives are doable. I wouldn't buy a vehicle I couldn't test drive.
Unless it was a '56 bus.
I'll add that I did the SUV trailer combo for a few years. It was easy once loaded, but my trailer had to be parked around back of the house (thanks HOA) and it got to be a pain moving it back and forth all the time. Also, and while minor, if I'm out running errands there are usually more than one, and parking with the trailer can be a pain.
I don't have too much to add to what everybody else has said, other than to say you probably need a full-size crew cab for four adults on a long trip. I have a SuperCab F-250, and while the back seat is fine for taking the team 5 miles from the track to dinner, it would be miserable on a longer trip.
Before I bought my F-250, I went gently used half-ton truck shopping. I sat behind myself in every current cab-and-a-half half-ton truck, and the Dodge with the baby forward hinged doors was the only one comfortable for more than a short trip.
In reply to Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) :
I know carmax does test drives during covid. And some dealerships will bring a vehicle to your house to test drive.
FWIW, I drove Chev Astros for 25 years . They were the family haulers, race car tow vehicles, and general utility beasts and I loved them. After trading the last one for a crew cab pickup there are numerous times when I miss the enclosed space vs an open truck bed. The truck bed is taller and harder to access than the rear of a van or SUV ( a swinging tailgate would alleviate some of that) and stuff slides around more. I know Americans love their trucks, I'm just not entirely sure why. You might be better off with an SUV and a kayak trailer a large percentage of the time.
Well if he's hauling dead deer, that alone falls for a truck. I'd never do that in a SUV or van.
He just needs a crewcab 1/2. One from the last 10 years will be more than capable in my opinion. With modern pickups it's really a wash, they're all super similar in capability. So just get what you like.
This is interesting. I noted that The 4Runner serves for most of what we want to do now, with the exception of not having an open air cargo area for things you don't want inside. We've taken it on long (850+ mile) trips more than a few times, and while it isn't all sunshine, getting out and moving around every couple of hours during rest stops keeps misery to manageable levels.
4Runner Dimensions:
Front Head Room 39.7 in.
Front Shoulder Room 58.0
Front Leg Room 41.7 in. .
Front Hip Room 55.3
Rear Head Room 39.1 in.
Rear Leg Room 34.7 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 57.2 in.
Rear Hip Room 55.3 in.
Engine: 4.7 V8
235 hp @ 4800 rpm
320 lb-ft @ 3400 rpm
14/17 mpg - Premium Gas
Length: 189.0 in.
Width: 73.8 in.
Track: 62 in
Wheel Base 109.8 inches
Curb Weight 4410 lbs.
Towing: 5000 lbs
Colorado Dimensions:
Most of the dimensions for the Colorado aren't that much different. The biggest differences are in the overall length, wheelbase, fuel economy (better) and the apparent power delivery of the V6 engine, which has less overall torque.
Front Head Room 41.40 in
Front Shoulder Room 57.50 in
Front Leg Room 45.00 in
Front Hip Room 55.00 in
Rear Head Room 38.30 in
Rear Leg Room 35.80 in
Rear Shoulder Room 56.20 in
Second Hip Room 53.30 in
Engine:
3.6 V6
308 hp @ 6800 rpm
275 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
17/24 mpg Regular Gas
Length, Overall 224.90 in
Width 74.30 in
Track: 62.4
Wheelbase 140.50 in
Curb Weight 4536 lbs.
Towing: 7550 lbs.
Ford Ranger Dimensions:
Front Head Room 39.8 in.
Front Shoulder Room 56.6 in.
Front Leg Room 43.10 in
Front Hip Room 55.80 in
Rear Head Room 35.9 in
Rear Leg Room 30.40 in
Rear Shoulder Room 55.40 in
Second Hip Room 53.30 in
Engine:
Inline 4
270 hp @ 5500 rpm
310 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
20/24 mpg Regular Gas
Length, Overall 210.80 in
Width 73.30 in
Track: 61.4
Wheelbase 126.80 in
Curb Weight 4354 lbs.
Towing: 7500 lbs.
Granted, one could buy a LOT of gas and do a lot of repairs for the price of a new truck, but there's something to be said for having something with a warranty and current day safety equipment.
Dropping to a 5' bed opens up the available options quite a bit. It's really nuts that having a 6' bed and a crew cab seems to be an unpopular option to me.
In addition to the "Dead Things Not Bleeding All Over the Carpet" criteria above, I was also considering using the bed as a sleeping location for camping trips. Then, I learned about this thing. I knew about roof top tents and all that jazz, but the existence of this type of thing makes a 5' bed possible, even if it is big money.
I'm also kind of impressed with Ford's turbo 4 in the truck application.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:FWIW, I drove Chev Astros for 25 years . They were the family haulers, race car tow vehicles, and general utility beasts and I loved them. After trading the last one for a crew cab pickup there are numerous times when I miss the enclosed space vs an open truck bed. The truck bed is taller and harder to access than the rear of a van or SUV ( a swinging tailgate would alleviate some of that) and stuff slides around more. I know Americans love their trucks, I'm just not entirely sure why. You might be better off with an SUV and a kayak trailer a large percentage of the time.
As an owner of a modern 1/2 pickup with the stupidly tall bed heights, I agree with you. I'm average height and I long for the days of the Model A pickup when you could simply lower the tailgate and step into the bed.
Now I carry a folding step stool with me in case I ever have to get up into the bed, I can crawl up using the step stool. Without the step stool I could get into it at all.
Pickup prices are flipping expensive right now. It's like everyone got their check and signed up for a 35 year loan.
I got half a mind to wait for the correction, the covid panic buyers to realize they can't afford their purchases, and generally things to go back to normal with supply of new vehicles( chip shortages are now shutting down lines)
id be patient now and wait for this to blow over. Get a small trailer in the mean time snd then sell when you find your truck.
Also test drove a Colorado with three tiny humans in the back seat. Loved the power and size of the truck. The backseat comfort with three kids 11 and younger was a big fat nope. They did fit better in a ridgeline or 4Runner which have only 2-3 more of rear hip room.
This wouldn't be a concern for southern folks, but up here in "The Land of Salt" (there's a huge salt mine under the city of Detroit) the speed that truck beds rot out ticks me off. What I have noticed is that the Nissan Titans look far better at 10-15 years old than any of the other brands. The wheel well edges will still be solid and the cab corners never seems to hole out the way every other pickup seems to. Before I bought my Canyon new I had looked at several 5 year old trucks and was seeing body rust starting on them. Body rust as opposed to normal chassis surface rust, so I went new instead.
In reply to frenchyd :
I thought the GM step in the bumpers was kinda gimmicky until I bought my GMC. Now it makes perfect sense. The height issue is compounded by the fact that local dealers here don't carry any 2wd stock. Every one of the 297 pickups in the local Ford dealer's inventory is a 4x4, for example.
All of these reasons are why we just can't let go of our 06 Sierra,
Ridgelines seem to have more rear seat room than the Colorado or Ranger FWIW.
If a full size seems like a better fit, an Aluminum F150 (2015+) won't have the rust issues that other trucks have. The Ecoboost engines have a pretty strong reputation, but the Coyote might be my choice if I were buying a long term addition to the fleet. You can get a crew cab with a full 6' bed, although the 5.5' is far more common.
This is what I'm up against. Find a possible truck, see they put clown shoes on it and wonder what else I'd have to un-berkeley.
Or, even worse, this pops up in the search and it's immediately disqualified.
My suggestion is late extended cab gmt400. Vortec truck. Loower a touch for bed height.
Fits the three oc us well enough!
In reply to STM317 :
How is the 5.0 a long term option but the ecoboost not?
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) said:My suggestion is late extended cab gmt400. Vortec truck. Loower a touch for bed height.
Fits the three oc us well enough!
our 06 CC Sierra GMT800 has fit 7 for 2 hours. in the back, 3 in the front.
yupididit said:In reply to STM317 :
How is the 5.0 a long term option but the ecoboost not?
Fair question. The 2015-2017 Coyote has cheaper port fuel injection vs the ecoboost's direct injection (no HPFP, etc on the Coyote). The ecoboost of course has two turbos and associated hardware that can fail and cost money that wouldn't apply to the Coyote. I'm not saying that the Ecoboost is prone to failures in these areas, but you can't have components fail if they're not there. The ecoboost is probably a better engine for towing, but that's not something that we do in my family, at least with any frequency so it's biggest advantage is really not important to me. There's almost no difference in real world fuel economy between the two for that to factor into ownership costs. And the coyote sounds better for what little that's worth.
So, if I'm spending my $25k+ for a half ton, I'd choose the 2015-2017 Coyote over the Ecoboost, because I don't need the extra grunt from the Ecoboost and I think the Coyote would have lower costs and fewer potential failures long term. 2018+ Coyotes are a different story
Leading candidate right now:
Chevy Extended Cab just down the road.
In reply to STM317 :
Followup question, what about pre 2015-2017 Coyote?
Is the 2018+ Coyote worse?
I really don't know much about modern Ford v8's. I just bought a ecoboost Expedition to replace my Excursion. +1 turbo, -2 cylinders difference. I hope to keep this until I can move into a diesel Escalade or an electric version of something 1/2 ton-ish lol
Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) said:Leading candidate right now:
Chevy Extended Cab just down the road.
Backseats look uncomfortable.
I miss my 2006 F250, it was a crewcab and had the longest bed I've ever seen on a pickup truck. I swear it seemed like it was 8ft long.
I was just in a similar situation.
Just picked up a 2016 Silverado, Crew Cab, 4x4 6.5 ft bed, 162k in the same range as the red truck posted. Caveat is that it is a work truck trim, floor shift, vinyl floor, seats, and all the dents and dings from being a fleet vehicle for a concrete company. Private sale found on FB Marketplace.
That being said it is well appointed, power windows, carplay, Android auto, AC etc etc. I have been very surprised with how well it runs and drives for being very well used. It drives straight, steering is tight, no odd rattles, noises or shakes. Also feels noticably more powerful than the two previous generation 5.3s I've driven.
In reply to yupididit :
Not really relevant to this thread but I had a F350 crew cab. It had a 8' bed. I put a lot of miles on it hauling the family and assorted gear all over the country and Canada. It was enormous when it came to parking at the grocery store. I should have never sold it.
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