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singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
10/17/14 1:17 p.m.

Basically, can this chassis handle 150+ horsepower Duratec and will it ever turn?

http://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/4696497669.html

This is what made me post it:

rcutclif
rcutclif Reader
10/17/14 1:32 p.m.

Looks like you found the way... The modified one has shaved rear door handles?

Bumboclaat
Bumboclaat HalfDork
10/17/14 1:37 p.m.
rcutclif wrote: Looks like you found the way... The modified one has shaved rear door handles?

It's a photoshop.

jstein77
jstein77 SuperDork
10/17/14 1:39 p.m.

I never cared for the rear suspension of that generation of Escort. The coupes and sedans had a trailing arm setup with WAY too much toe change with travel. That's why the factory put so much positive camber into the front suspension; otherwise it would just back into the bushes at the first hint of drop throttle. Not sure if the wagon used the same geometry.

8400 miles? Grandma's car, only driven to church on Sundays?

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Reader
10/17/14 1:40 p.m.

"Is there any way to make this cool?"

Drive it.

Wally
Wally MegaDork
10/17/14 1:40 p.m.

I wouldn't shave the rears unless you shave the fronts too. I always thought that looked funny. Otherwise that blue one is pretty close though I would go with a set of gold BBS style wheels and an 80's style stripe along the bottom in three shades of tan/gold.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/17/14 1:46 p.m.

Rob the nose off an EXP:

or maybe an Escort GT:

lower it an inch, correct the camber, tint the windows.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
10/17/14 1:59 p.m.

I'm sure it could be made to look cool with less ride height and the right wheels. Performance-wise...I dunno.

singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
10/17/14 2:13 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: I never cared for the rear suspension of that generation of Escort. The coupes and sedans had a trailing arm setup with WAY too much toe change with travel. That's why the factory put so much positive camber into the front suspension; otherwise it would just back into the bushes at the first hint of drop throttle. Not sure if the wagon used the same geometry. 8400 miles? Grandma's car, only driven to church on Sundays?

This was the kind of info I am interested in. I will look and see what I can dig up about the wagon suspension vs the rest.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
10/17/14 2:24 p.m.

bluej
bluej SuperDork
10/17/14 2:26 p.m.

Color me interested.

Edit: oh, god, pinchy! My eyes!!

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
10/17/14 2:27 p.m.

I think that lowered stance, big wheels, and a roll cage makes anything look pretty cool.

jstein77
jstein77 SuperDork
10/17/14 2:30 p.m.

Common factor on those 3 is RWD.

singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
10/17/14 2:38 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: Common factor on those 3 is RWD.

That is a very good point. I don't mind FWD but it needs to have a decently well thought out suspension. I am still looking for a mid nineties Corolla wagon.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/17/14 4:14 p.m.
pinchvalve wrote:

And that's the day we broke the internet.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
10/17/14 4:18 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote:
pinchvalve wrote:
And that's the day we broke the internet.

really???? that's what did it for ya????

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/17/14 4:27 p.m.
pinchvalve wrote:

I've never been captured by the whole 510 thing, but I dig that a LOT.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
10/17/14 5:07 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Rob the nose off an EXP:

If you're going to do that, find an early EXP.

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
10/17/14 5:14 p.m.

Kosei K1s make anything look more awesomer.

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
10/17/14 8:55 p.m.

Just put a set of the period Escort GT wheels, a K&N, and drive the bejeebus out of it.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
10/17/14 9:44 p.m.

A zetec is closer to a bolt in swap and will get you close to the duratec numbers but not quite. I heard the strut towers rust quickly so do pull up the rear carpet/plastic panels and check.

JamesMcD
JamesMcD Dork
10/17/14 9:54 p.m.

What is the bolt pattern on those?

turboswede
turboswede UltimaDork
10/17/14 11:33 p.m.

The early ones are 4x108. I test fitted a set of Mustang 4-lug wheels on my wife's Escort. Filled the fender wells quite nicely, just needed low profile tires to fit properly. Eibach actually had lowering springs for the hatches, not sure about the wagons.

Ford actually sold adjustable strut tops for those for crash damage, they weren't cheap though and I'd probably just slot the towers and stiffen them with some extra steel and maybe a brace if it seemed necessary.

The CVH engine was available in turbo form in the very early years and overseas (the 1st gen escorts were essentially the same as the euro ones, just stripped down because they would have been too expensive). So the engines had a decent following over there, there was even a book written on how to hotrod the CVH engine.

That said, I'd use a later Mazda-based car because the chassis is much better and the engine swap choices are better.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/17/14 11:34 p.m.
singleslammer wrote:
jstein77 wrote: Common factor on those 3 is RWD.
That is a very good point. I don't mind FWD but it needs to have a decently well thought out suspension. I am still looking for a mid nineties Corolla wagon.

I wonder where you got that idea.....

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/18/14 12:27 a.m.

Fn'a. Now I want my 89 back so I can swap a sealed beam exp front end on it. Combined with the 4 slot hayashi looking wheels, a nice drop and the gt Tupperware and you have some action. Too bad I crushed that car. Only reason I bought it was it was cheaper than a rental when a coffin dodger subaru'd my DSM. It was a horrible car. I miss it terribly. Hatch didn't even work so it sucked as a wagon, but damn.

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