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yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 10:16 a.m.

Specifically 80-88.

also, why does every one I find need a transfer case?

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/19/12 10:22 a.m.

It's a Grand Wagoneer with a single cab and a bed. They are friggin awesome trucks! 80-88 will all be AMC V8 only. Factory installed will be the 360, with the 401 optional. Both are great motors. The smog era heads on them aren't great, but you can do pretty much anything you want with the engines. Expect mileage in the single-digits though...

Transmissions are all over the map. Factory would be a 727 Torque Flite, TH400, or one of a random number of odd manuals. Transfer cases and axles were all over the map, too, and included traditional styles and quadra-tracs, etc. It doesn't help that FSJ's are like Legos so people will bolt on anything from the 60's to the 90's FSJ's on these.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
7/19/12 10:25 a.m.

Paul you sure the one you're asking about falls into that range? Didn't you say it has a 4.2 i6?

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/19/12 10:30 a.m.

I'm about 80% sure the J10's stopped with the I-6's in 70, but I could be wrong. The 360/401 became standard from 70-88, before that the V8's were a 350 Buick and the 327 Rambler/AMC. There was Willys I-6 starting with the Gladiator in 62 that was eventually replaced by the AMC I-6 (232 or 258), but I don't know when those stopped.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 10:33 a.m.

this one is an '80......and with the hood open, its an I-6......so IDK.

I know they're one hell of a truck, its just I don't know all that much else about them.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 10:35 a.m.

Also, anything I should look for in particular?

m4ff3w
m4ff3w UltraDork
7/19/12 10:37 a.m.

Wiki says the 258 lasted until '88. Maybe most were optioned up?

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/19/12 10:37 a.m.

Ah, guess it was 80 when the I-6 stopped then? Anyway, the AMC I-6 is one of the best motors of all time. You can't kill it, it makes great torque, and it's easy to work on. With that engine (and depending on drivetrain, tires, etc) you can actually have a fairly decent MPG truck for what it's capabilities are. Towing might not be fun, but it'll haul a load in the bed with aplomb.

You can also swap over the EFI from the later 4.0 versions. Even better is grab an entire running 4.0 (preferably the HO) and rebuilt the 258 with it, making a 4.6L stroker with EFI and electronic ignition. Very easy upgrade that's well documented, and totally on my to-do list!

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/19/12 10:39 a.m.
yamaha wrote: Also, anything I should look for in particular?

Rust. That's about the only thing that will kill these, and replacement panels just don't exist. Crawl underneath and poke the frame with a screwdriver, check the cab corners, and the cowl. Everything mechanical is easily (and cheaply) serviceable.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 10:40 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Ah, guess it was 80 when the I-6 stopped then? Anyway, the AMC I-6 is one of the best motors of all time. You can't kill it, it makes great torque, and it's easy to work on. With that engine (and depending on drivetrain, tires, etc) you can actually have a fairly decent MPG truck for what it's capabilities are. Towing might not be fun, but it'll haul a load in the bed with aplomb. You can also swap over the EFI from the later 4.0 versions. Even better is grab an entire running 4.0 (preferably the HO) and rebuilt the 258 with it, making a 4.6L stroker with EFI and electronic ignition. Very easy upgrade that's well documented, and totally on my to-do list!

And conveniently there is a AMC xj in my barn......sitting with a 4.0L efi swap halfway done.....

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 10:40 a.m.
Javelin wrote:
yamaha wrote: Also, anything I should look for in particular?
Rust. That's about the only thing that will kill these, and replacement panels just don't exist. Crawl underneath and poke the frame with a screwdriver, check the cab corners, and the cowl. Everything mechanical is easily (and cheaply) serviceable.

Cool, great to know!!!!!

RossD
RossD UltraDork
7/19/12 11:49 a.m.

My dad and I had a '65 J-300 that came with a '69 Buick 350 but ended up in the picture above with a Mopar 400 and 727, and some heavy duty 3/4 ton axles.

The rust was in the rocker panels, floor boards, and bed area where the leaky exhaust expedited the oxidation. Cut out, weld up, and party on.

I still love that truck.

I think it was the guys on SpikeTV or Stacy David that swapped out square headlight front end of the later trucks back to the round version like our old one. I like the older look personally.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 11:51 a.m.

ROFL, the exhaust out the bedside?

RossD
RossD UltraDork
7/19/12 11:54 a.m.

In reply to yamaha:

Yup and those are 35" tall tires. We never used it around town, just up north on the logging roads, other wise you could put exhaust into peoples' open car windows driving around in heavy traffic.

PHeller
PHeller SuperDork
7/19/12 12:00 p.m.

Makes those tires look small.

pres589
pres589 Dork
7/19/12 12:08 p.m.

I love the exhaust through the bedside; no going over the rear axle to deal with, not hanging low dumping in front of the rear wheels, I may have to steal this idea for future use...

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 12:21 p.m.

I'm thinking redo the bodywork and paint it yeller and blue.....so original, I know

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/19/12 12:23 p.m.

In reply to yamaha:

Surely you mean like this, right?!?

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 12:25 p.m.

naturally......

dlmater
dlmater Reader
7/19/12 12:50 p.m.

I have always loved these trucks. My son turns 16 in a few months. He wants a 4x4 pick-up to drive. I have been trying to talk him into one of these so I can have it as a driving project truck as well. He thinks I'm a loser. I may have to buy one anyway. He'll get over it.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
7/19/12 2:05 p.m.
pres589 wrote: I love the exhaust through the bedside; no going over the rear axle to deal with, not hanging low dumping in front of the rear wheels, I may have to steal this idea for future use...

It was a designed to minimized materials and maximized ground clearance. That and it made us laugh when we were drinking beer and talking about where it should go.

EvanB
EvanB UberDork
7/19/12 2:11 p.m.

There is one for sale near me. It has a plow mounted on it and I haven't checked the price yet but it looks decent from the road.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
7/19/12 2:15 p.m.
RossD wrote:
pres589 wrote: I love the exhaust through the bedside; no going over the rear axle to deal with, not hanging low dumping in front of the rear wheels, I may have to steal this idea for future use...
It was a designed to minimized materials and maximized ground clearance. That and it made us laugh when we were drinking beer and talking about where it should go.

That exhaust set up is nice. My F-100 will recieve that modification in the near future

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/19/12 2:16 p.m.

Well, I'm going to look at it Saturday. Wish me luck, as long as the frame is good, I don't see how I can really go wrong for the price.

It does have a few spots of rust in the rockers and such, and sitting for awhile, but I think its a fairly simple end to replace those spots with new metal(as in drop it off at my neighbors house with a 6 pack and $50... )

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel HalfDork
7/19/12 2:29 p.m.

Just noticed something: RossD's truck with the trick exhaust has a kind of mini-visor thing going on with the roofline over the windshield. Stylish, but not what you'd call aerodynamically helpful. OTOH, the (totally cool) yellow truck from Twister has a much smoother upper edge. Google images show both styles. What's up?

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