Learn me Neon engines/5 speeds, etc

If you decide to MS it, drop me an email.  I'm running an NGC PT turbo-lite engine in my first gen with full standalone MS2 and would be happy to pass along whatever I can.

900 for that is a pretty sweet deal.  The intake manifold is really tall because of the PT's nosecone.  If you get a 1st gen DOHC intake, you can re-drill it to bolt up and it will be fine.  You can also get the SRT4 intake.  Whichever intake you get, you will also need the throttle body because the PT one won't fit the others.

These are notorious for leaking at the oil pressure sender so they wind up getting run on low/no oil, so it's worth checking that if you can to make sure it's not knocking.  But the rebuild is pretty cheap and easy once you've got the motor out anyway.

In reply to wae :

Meh, intake height should be fine in a mid engine.

Great info on oil leaks, etc.

All discourse appreciated.

There is a guy who made a plenum spacer, to go between, the two halves of the bolt together plenum. 

It improved torque

Yep, the $900 pt gt is a sweet starting point. 

Measure between your frame "rails" though. I think my x1/9 is just less than 3 feet, which would make for some annoying extra work.

Robbie said:

Yep, the $900 pt gt is a sweet starting point. 

Measure between your frame "rails" though. I think my x1/9 is just less than 3 feet, which would make for some annoying extra work.

Yeah, the older Chrysler 2.2 was used as the basis for the newer 2.0/2.4L engines (same bore spacing and headbolt hole locations, bellhousing patterns are nearly the same, transaxles are nearly the same as well) and the 2.2L SOHC I tried to stuff into mine was way really, really close and I would have to notch the driver's side rail to make room for the transaxle and the control arm and I'd have to severely restructure the forward rail under the fuel tank to move the drivetrain forward enough to get the axles to line up.

So expect to create new frame rails above the old ones to allow more room for the larger drivetrain and cut the old ones out along with what would be the core support on a FWD car.

Fitting the engine bay of the PT or a Neon into the envelope of the X-1/9 actually isn't a terrible idea in the long run, you'd get better brakes, better suspension geometry, more parts availability and a wider track to help put the power down. Use similar parts for the front to keep the bolt patterns and improvements the same.  Run large box flares like a Dallara or similar and enjoy the heck out of it.