N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
4/23/16 12:54 a.m.

Not the housings, but the bulbs.

The headlights on the P71 are dull and improperly aimed. I found some low priced housings and are crystal clear and they just came in. Next step is the actual bulbs.

The current bulbs are E36 M3ty and I can barely see in wet weather. I have midrange silverstars in the F150 and love how well they work even in foggy, water-logged housings. They work well in all weather.

I'm looking at OEM options and HID conversions and I'm not convinced of one or the other. We're talking a stockish color as well. No fancy blue or yellers.

Anyone have experience or suggestions in this area?

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) MegaDork
4/23/16 1:15 a.m.

A good set of relays, silverstars and a proper aiming.

Done.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
4/23/16 1:18 a.m.

In reply to Stefan (Not Bruce):

I did not even consider relays as an option. Great idea.

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing HalfDork
4/23/16 6:54 a.m.

Concur on the Silverstars. Don't bother with the Silverstar Ultras, however.

hhaase
hhaase New Reader
4/23/16 6:57 a.m.

Yeah, always relays if you can. A lot of cars out there will start melting headlight switches if you increase bulb wattage.

XLR99
XLR99 Dork
4/23/16 7:37 a.m.

On the recommendation of a couple people on here, I've been using Sylvania Xtravision bulbs in the fleet.

TGMF
TGMF Reader
4/23/16 7:50 a.m.

I put Phillips xtreme vision in my wife's ford escape for the same reasons. Phillips claims 100% brighter than standard bulbs. Don't know about that, but they are definetly a big improvement in the mid range as well as sides of the road illumination. They are the same wattage as stock, so a drop in install.

chiodos
chiodos Dork
4/23/16 7:57 a.m.

DO NOT even consider hid's in a reflector housing. Unless you have projectors you will have worse visibility than normal halogens not to mention blinding every person you pass with scattered light. I wish the brodozers in my area understood this...

M2Pilot
M2Pilot HalfDork
4/23/16 8:55 a.m.
chiodos wrote: DO NOT even consider hid's in a reflector housing. Unless you have projectors you will have worse visibility than normal halogens not to mention blinding every person you pass with scattered light. I wish the brodozers in my area understood this...

I suspect that the brodozers in you area (and everywhere else) already understand this. It just enhances their asshattery.

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
4/23/16 9:13 a.m.

Silverstar Ultra has my vote. Pack of 2 and use the Advance Auto Parts online order discount/pickup to save $

XLR99
XLR99 Dork
4/23/16 9:21 a.m.
M2Pilot wrote:
chiodos wrote: DO NOT even consider hid's in a reflector housing. Unless you have projectors you will have worse visibility than normal halogens not to mention blinding every person you pass with scattered light. I wish the brodozers in my area understood this...
I suspect that the brodozers in you area (and everywhere else) already understand this. It just enhances their asshattery.

Based on what I see around here, brodozer pilot comprehension of, well, anything seems pretty minimal. Apart from the 'Hey look at me. I'm cool!' thing.

chiodos
chiodos Dork
4/23/16 9:30 a.m.

In reply to M2Pilot:

It still blows my mind that although illegal, no cops do anything about it every.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
4/23/16 11:29 a.m.
chiodos wrote: In reply to M2Pilot: It still blows my mind that although illegal, no cops do anything about it every.

It would involve inspections, paperwork, and generally be a pain in the assignment.

Anyway, this thread solves my problem.

1kris06
1kris06 Reader
4/23/16 12:49 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
chiodos wrote: In reply to M2Pilot: It still blows my mind that although illegal, no cops do anything about it every.
It would involve inspections, paperwork, and generally be a pain in the assignment. Anyway, this thread solves my problem.

It's actually a stupidly easy test, but that's neither here nor there. Cops don't give two E36 M3s about equipment violations.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
4/23/16 1:21 p.m.
1kris06 wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
chiodos wrote: In reply to M2Pilot: It still blows my mind that although illegal, no cops do anything about it every.
It would involve inspections, paperwork, and generally be a pain in the assignment. Anyway, this thread solves my problem.
It's actually a stupidly easy test, but that's neither here nor there. Cops don't give two E36 M3s about equipment violations.

but they do give reasons to pull you and run your license

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo UltimaDork
4/23/16 3:45 p.m.

Dunno about the P71 in particular, but it's often less of a housing/bulb issue and more of a marginal when new, bad when old wiring problem. Check voltage at the bulb with the lights on.

GTwannaB
GTwannaB HalfDork
4/23/16 4:28 p.m.

On this subject, what about LED conversions? It looks like they come with some sort of heat sinks, do these things tend to melt?

dj06482
dj06482 SuperDork
4/23/16 8:57 p.m.

I run Sylvania Xtravisions - cheaper than the Silverstars, and similar output (but without the "whiter" light).

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
4/24/16 12:48 a.m.
WildScotsRacing wrote: Concur on the Silverstars. Don't bother with the Silverstar Ultras, however.

Agreed. After having a couple Ultra bulbs burn out in a ridiculously short time, I gave the regular Silverstars a try, and was pleased with the very comparable brightness and longer life, at a lower price.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltimaDork
4/24/16 10:43 a.m.

Do not go with HIDs unless you have a projector lens type housing. The reason conversions blind people is because they are put in a stock reflector housing. If you look at most cars that have HID lights stock, the bulb is behind a projector lens. You need that lens to direct the lighting to where it needs to be.

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