I did my first track day in the Accord. I flop around so much that I was getting a cramp in my left leg from bracing myself. Part of the solution is strapping in tighter, but another part is that you can just about fit two of me between the bolsters.
The car will get a fixed back seat when it gets a roll bar, and that will be a while, in the mean time I want to shop for something adjustable (car is a coupe) that will hold me better and ideally is lighter, because lighter is faster and the car needs all the help it can get.
What should I be looking at?
imgon
Reader
3/14/18 9:00 a.m.
What about just getting a race seat and a bar harness now? Get one that you can mount to factory sliders or one that comes with sliders that will mount to factory mounting points. That will keep you from flopping around. When you add the cage sell the bar harness.
Kids are still riding in the back. Probably for the next year at least. I'll pull the trim panels and have a look see at what is available on the B pillars, but even if I thought it wasn't dangerous to have a bar in front of the kids heads (which I do) making them crawl under a bar to get to the back seat is just mean. This is the car that deucekid#2 will use as his learner car when he gets his permit next year.
Robbie
PowerDork
3/14/18 9:11 a.m.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/499539044/the-bolster-boost/description
I saw an ad for this thing in the mag. Seems like a good idea, but I dont know where/if you can buy it yet.
In reply to Robbie :
That's cool. I made something similar for the Mazda2 back in the day. I think I still have it actualy. I should pull it out. Still thinking a different seat would be ideal, but that sort of thing is the next best option.
Woody
MegaDork
3/14/18 9:15 a.m.
Light, adjustable and supportive is a tricky combo. If you can settle for just being well supported, comfy and adjustable, you should probably talk to that other guy in Texas who has all the Boxsters. Even the base Boxster seats are made by Recaro and are way better than base Accord seats. They are also 16" between the mounting points on the flat and straight sliders, which makes them easy to adapt to other cars. Spec Boxster means that there are a lot of stock seats taking up space in peoples attics and basements. Storing seats is a PITA and they can often be bought cheap.
In reply to Woody :
Are they manual seats or do they require power?
LanEvo
HalfDork
3/14/18 9:18 a.m.
Recaro SRD or Speed is tough to beat for what you’re looking for
Will the seats from a civic si of similar vintage work?
Woody
MegaDork
3/14/18 9:50 a.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:
In reply to Woody :
Are they manual seats or do they require power?
They had manual ones, plus several different powered versions, but even the powered ones only require two wires to operate. I have a set of 2004 GT3 Sport seats that are manual fore and aft, with power adjustment for the tilt and lumbar.
Instead of an adjustable, get a seat so thin that you can slip right by it into the back seat.
Buy a Tillett - they're all carbon fiber and not terribly expensive.
In reply to chaparral :
You're a bad person. Now I'm trying to figure out if Mrs. Deuce will kill me if I tell her that I NEED an 8 lb carbon seat.
Edit: they even sell sliders especially for the B6. I'm sure I could get Wedge to make me a floor bracket with the seat belt mount like we had made for the Civic. I wonder what One Lap transits would be like.......
RossD
MegaDork
3/14/18 11:45 a.m.
The Recaros in my old 91 Jetta GLI had great bolsters and were manual. Might be hard to find though.
S2000 seats are fairly supportive and one of the lighter factory seats I've felt. They're about 25 pounds each. The mounting is kinda goofy but that could be fixed.
man, this has me searching out genesis seats on car-part
bluej
UltraDork
3/14/18 12:06 p.m.
Subbing to see where this goes.
wspohn
Dork
3/14/18 12:19 p.m.
Miata are pretty good and fairly light.....and you can find one to sit in to see if they are any improvement on what you have.
RossD said:
The Recaros in my old 91 Jetta GLI had great bolsters and were manual. Might be hard to find though.
I was about to reply and suggest a 90s GTI seat. The ones from a 16V GTI have pretty aggressive bolsters and are quite comfy.
This got me searching now, too...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recaro
Nice list near the bottom showing what cars received a Recaro from factory, but doesn't list years.
I routinely look on Craigslist for Recaro, Corbeau, Sparco etc and I've picked up some old style Recaros twice. First pair was $70 and the second pair were $65. I just need something from the seventies to put them in. Currently one set is attached to office chair frames.
pimpm3
SuperDork
3/14/18 1:58 p.m.
RSX seats are not terrible, should bolt up and are easier to find / cheaper than s2000 seats. Plus since they are also 2 doors they flip forward for accessing rear seat.
pimpm3 said:
RSX seats are not terrible, should bolt up and are easier to find / cheaper than s2000 seats. Plus since they are also 2 doors they flip forward for accessing rear seat.
I came to say this. Also Prelude seats.
If you want to shop outside of the Honda world volkswagen GTI seats are pretty good, and most of them flip forward for rear access.
You could try FRS/BRZ seats too, if they're comfortable for you. Don't know how light they are but you'll get a lot more support.
The RSX is on the Civic platform and the one thing I found on my Honda searching says that, at least from a mount standpoint, the 03-08 Accords are their own beast. Well, they can use TSX seats, but that's not really much of an upgrade in my eyes. I will keep my eyes peeled though.
FRS/BRZ seats are a good idea. I did enjoy the times I've spent in them.
I talked to someone who's been in a Tillett and he says they're no more comfortable than an Ultrashield. I argued that they're way cooler. He said I had brain damage. Back to looking for something sort of normal.