cwh
cwh SuperDork
10/3/11 4:36 p.m.

OK, we all know how easy it is to get 600- 700 HP out of a 4.8 LSx. If one were to put that power into, say, an RX7, or a 300zx, what could be expected for top end? I remember a few years ago HRM said that 600hp was sufficient to push a Camaro to 200mph. Not like I can do this now, but as a mental exercise, what do you guys think? What car might be better for such an exercise? Please, discuss. Yeah, I watched too much Bonneville video on Youtube.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
10/3/11 5:34 p.m.

Aero is vastly more important than power in LSR...

Toyman01
Toyman01 SuperDork
10/3/11 5:46 p.m.

Seems to me I remember a Camaro/Firebird lifting off of the salt at around 200+ because the aero wasn't quit right. The other thing you will run into is gearing. It will probably take flight or run out of gear before it runs out of HP.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
10/3/11 5:46 p.m.

OK, of the cars mentioned, which has better aero? I know there are LOTS of tricks to improve it, speaketh to me.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
10/3/11 5:48 p.m.
Maroon92 wrote: Aero is vastly more important than weight in LSR...

Fixed

Top speed is almost entirely a function of CdA and power. Rolling resistance is the only area where weight comes in, and its a pretty small factor at 200+mph

And to answer the original question, I don't know but a LSx Z32 would be awesome no matter where it tops out!

And the answer is RX7. 0.29 Cd. Z32 is 0.30 Cd. I'm fairly confident the frontal area on the RX7 would be lower as well.

Toyman01
Toyman01 SuperDork
10/3/11 5:49 p.m.

From the looks I would say 3rd gen RX-7 over the 300. But I know nothing about aero so my thoughts are worthless. Maybe look up the drag coefficient for both.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
10/3/11 5:51 p.m.

Also note that with CdA and weight, its pretty easy to figure out how fast you can go with XXXhp.

fritzsch
fritzsch Reader
10/3/11 5:57 p.m.

Neglecting friction top speed is going to be determined by max engine rpm and gearing. so in a perfect world i guess that would be your max speed, but expect it to be much ess in real world

stuart in mn
stuart in mn SuperDork
10/3/11 6:33 p.m.

The thing with racing at Bonneville is it's not so much about putting the most HP you can in a given car, but finding a class where you can be competitive with what you have. A friend of mine has a '53 Studebaker with a flathead six that he turbocharged - it's not crazy fast (I think it went around 130mph) but it was enough to set the record for his class.

Chas_H
Chas_H New Reader
10/3/11 6:35 p.m.

Weight is very important. Too little weight and the car will spin its wheels. It's much like plowing snow. One can't push more than one weighs.

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