Will
Will Dork
4/9/13 7:09 p.m.

Anyone else excited for this?

Race format announced

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
4/9/13 7:16 p.m.

In reply to Will:

My sons and I have our tickets. Not normally a big NASCAR fan, but this should be different and fun.

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
4/9/13 7:25 p.m.

yea, I'd like to see that

jmc14
jmc14 Reader
4/9/13 7:27 p.m.

Should be good.

ncjay
ncjay Reader
4/9/13 7:43 p.m.

Even using a dirt track qualifying format with heat races and a last chance qualifier. I am curious though if Nascar will make teams use current chassis, or will they build dirt track chassis? If I was a team owner, we'd be welding up a dirt track special. Seems like it'd be a bit tough to make those asphalt chassis work well. Should be one whale of a show.

dimarra
dimarra Dork
4/9/13 7:48 p.m.

My son and I decided that, since it's a truck race, and trucks have different uses than most cars, the format needs a few tweeks.

Primarily, they need to be pulling trailers and hauling cargo.

Pit stops require the trailer to be backed in to the stall.

The start shall be loading cargo into the bed and hooking up the trailer.

I mean it IS the "Camping World" Truck Series.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
4/9/13 8:12 p.m.

^I think most would rather watch retired geriatrics try the same thing in the local Lowes parking lot.

I definitely like this dirt track idea!

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 HalfDork
4/9/13 8:17 p.m.

Dude how did I not know about this. I gotta see it.

turbojunker
turbojunker HalfDork
4/10/13 12:40 a.m.

http://youtu.be/6V7GJdn9rZE

I can't wait for this since the ARCA dirt races aren't ever televised.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
4/10/13 1:20 a.m.
ncjay wrote: Even using a dirt track qualifying format with heat races and a last chance qualifier. I am curious though if Nascar will make teams use current chassis, or will they build dirt track chassis? If I was a team owner, we'd be welding up a dirt track special. Seems like it'd be a bit tough to make those asphalt chassis work well. Should be one whale of a show.

they've already done testing and know what they have to do to make their existing trucks work "good enough" on the dirt.. Goodyear was there doing tire testing so they know what kind of tires are needed... and besides, not having a chassis that's optimized for the dirt kinda evens the playing field for the smaller teams..

now if we could just get them to haul a bunch of dirt into Bristol again for the Cup guys in the summer night race like they did a few times for the World of Outlaws boys..

noddaz
noddaz HalfDork
4/10/13 6:26 a.m.

Here.. I fixxed this for you...

novaderrik wrote: *snip* Goodyear was there doing tire testing so they know what kind of tires are needed...(Hoosiers) *snip*

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
4/10/13 2:18 p.m.
noddaz wrote: Here.. I fixxed this for you...
novaderrik wrote: *snip* Goodyear was there doing tire testing so they know what kind of tires are needed...(Hoosiers) *snip*

i doubt if Goodyear would let NASCAR get a one race exemption from their big $$$$ exclusive tire contract...

Will
Will Dork
4/10/13 6:13 p.m.
novaderrik wrote:
noddaz wrote: Here.. I fixxed this for you...
novaderrik wrote: *snip* Goodyear was there doing tire testing so they know what kind of tires are needed...(Hoosiers) *snip*
i doubt if Goodyear would let NASCAR get a one race exemption from their big $$$$ exclusive tire contract...

Does Goodyear have an exclusive contract? I've been watching long enough to remember Geoff Bodine winning 3 Cup races on Hoosiers in 94...

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
4/10/13 6:29 p.m.

Nascar is a bunch of copy-cats. Back 40 started that!

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
4/10/13 8:16 p.m.
Will wrote:
novaderrik wrote:
noddaz wrote: Here.. I fixxed this for you...
novaderrik wrote: *snip* Goodyear was there doing tire testing so they know what kind of tires are needed...(Hoosiers) *snip*
i doubt if Goodyear would let NASCAR get a one race exemption from their big $$$$ exclusive tire contract...
Does Goodyear have an exclusive contract? I've been watching long enough to remember Geoff Bodine winning 3 Cup races on Hoosiers in 94...

Goodyear is the exclusive tire supplier for at least the top 3 series.. i believe Hoosier had some safety issues in the mid 90's and pulled out/got thrown out..

hotrodlarry
hotrodlarry HalfDork
4/10/13 8:39 p.m.

I've never understood race formats like that. the dirt and asphalt tracks up here just run heats, a LCQ if needed and a feature.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
4/10/13 11:19 p.m.
hotrodlarry wrote: I've never understood race formats like that. the dirt and asphalt tracks up here just run heats, a LCQ if needed and a feature.

NASCAR needs to have the "the top XX cars in points are in the race" rule to keep the big money sponsors happy- can't have a superstar miss a race while an underfunded start and park car sits on the pole due to some dumb luck..

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
4/11/13 9:39 a.m.
ncjay wrote: Even using a dirt track qualifying format with heat races and a last chance qualifier. I am curious though if Nascar will make teams use current chassis, or will they build dirt track chassis? If I was a team owner, we'd be welding up a dirt track special. Seems like it'd be a bit tough to make those asphalt chassis work well. Should be one whale of a show.

Increase the ground clearance and soften the springs. QED. Nascar ran dirt races in the then Grand National series. they would run dirt one night, then asphalt the next.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
4/11/13 3:14 p.m.
iceracer wrote:
ncjay wrote: Even using a dirt track qualifying format with heat races and a last chance qualifier. I am curious though if Nascar will make teams use current chassis, or will they build dirt track chassis? If I was a team owner, we'd be welding up a dirt track special. Seems like it'd be a bit tough to make those asphalt chassis work well. Should be one whale of a show.
Increase the ground clearance and soften the springs. QED. Nascar ran dirt races in the then Grand National series. they would run dirt one night, then asphalt the next.

back then they didn't build a specific chassis for short, intermediate, long, and plate tracks or spend a lot of money paying a lot of smart people to optimize the bodywork that was attached to those different chassis for each different track or use computer simulations and shaker tables to dial in which springs and shocks to use..

if this becomes an annual thing and not just a one off deal, the bigger teams will spend a ton of money on chassis and body programs that are specifically geared towards winning at Eldora...

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