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mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/20/15 11:00 a.m.

The CTS-V is at the dealer. The axle came out of the diff (again) on One Lap and I had to knock it back together in a hotel parking lot and drive the car gently for the rest of the event. The dealer just called and said they put the car up and can't see anything wrong, which I told them, because I bashed it back together. Doesn't mean it's fixed, it just doesn't leak fluid. Can I replicate it? Probably but I need to bobble and catch the car in a fairly quick corner which is something I can't really do on the street.
GM told them to replace the whole thing but they're waiting for some super high level authorization because the mechanic can't see the problem because I had to fix the obvious symptom. Around and around we go. I was hoping the fact that this is the SECOND timr thr axle has come out would make things a bit easier. Apparently not. A bit frustrating.

tpwalsh
tpwalsh HalfDork
5/20/15 11:11 a.m.
  1. Take home.
  2. Remove faulty axle
  3. Put back in precariously, so that it is obviously broken.
  4. Call dealer, ask for tow.
orphancars
orphancars Reader
5/20/15 11:18 a.m.

......and say it failed on teh way home

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/20/15 11:19 a.m.

Did you take photos of it in the broken condition? (AKA with a cell phone)

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
5/20/15 11:20 a.m.

torch dealership... look for more co-operative dealership

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
5/20/15 11:24 a.m.

" Hi. Can you please spend a big hunk of money on my say-so, without any evidence? Thanks a lot!"

Its probably a situation the aftermarket is going to have to fix. You are likely working outside the design parameters, and that little snapring on the axle (or in the side gear) isn't up to the stresses you are putting on it.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider Dork
5/20/15 11:32 a.m.

Don't you have the contact that you made on the One Lap? I would talk to him and I bet it's fixed in no time flat.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/20/15 11:43 a.m.

I have talked to the head of engineering development for the V cars and the dealership has been in contact with them. That's who told them to just replace the rear end. They actually saw one similar failure in testing and want to know if this is the same thing or not. For what it's worth, the guy who helped design the cars told me I was well within what they were designed to do. I don't have a picture because this all happened pretty much in the dark, including working on the car at 5:00 am to get it ready for the next day on track.
There's not much use being coy with them about how it happened. A quick google search would tell them what I do with the car. Oh, and the One Lap stickers are still all over it.
I understand they have to take my word, I was just hoping they would as it was an identical failure to the last one they 'fixed'.

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing Dork
5/20/15 11:43 a.m.
bmw88rider wrote: Don't you have the contact that you made on the One Lap? I would talk to him and I bet it's fixed in no time flat.

Or give them the phone number of that contact....

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/20/15 11:59 a.m.
jimbob_racing wrote:
bmw88rider wrote: Don't you have the contact that you made on the One Lap? I would talk to him and I bet it's fixed in no time flat.
Or give them the phone number of that contact....

They have that. It will probably all work out ok and I'll be telling you guys about Cadillac's fantastic support (which was amazing on One Lap) I'm just frustrated this morning.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit UberDork
5/20/15 12:02 p.m.

I would think the call from the head engineer would be sufficient, but I also understand the Dealer not wanting to be left holding the bag. Good luck.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku PowerDork
5/20/15 12:44 p.m.

They'll fix it, just need to wait out the red tape.

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Reader
5/20/15 12:54 p.m.

Try rotating the tires. It sounds dumb but i had a customers bravada that would mysteriously pop a front halfshaft at random. Even though all four tires were the same size, one was different brand with a different amount of wear. It was on the corner that was popping out. After trying everything else we went with a new set of tires. It cured it. I have no idea why it caused the axle to repeatedly pop out but it did.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse Reader
5/20/15 1:31 p.m.

In reply to gearheadmb:

Because "Bro-vada"

Harvey
Harvey HalfDork
5/20/15 2:21 p.m.

I'm torn between feeling bad for you and envying your problems.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/20/15 3:17 p.m.
Harvey wrote: I'm torn between feeling bad for you and envying your problems.

Life isn't THAT bad.

tuna55
tuna55 UltimaDork
5/20/15 3:26 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote:
Harvey wrote: I'm torn between feeling bad for you and envying your problems.
Life isn't THAT bad.

Yeah, same here. You might have to bum a ride with the wife and the Porsche.

I do hope it gets resolved. It really should.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
5/20/15 6:54 p.m.

if you can't get any action on this … social media would be the way to go … twitter, instagram, FB …. those seem to be pretty solid means of getting someones attention

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/21/15 7:51 a.m.

I got a call from my super nice service rep last night at 8:00 She says they're going to fix it, sounds like the whole rear end is getting swapped. She just needs the proper service authorization number before they can start turning wrenches. If they start before they get the number then they can get stuck with the bill instead of GM taking it. Red tape silliness that has nothing to do with me or the car. That made me happy. Hopefully they'll get what they need today and get started.

bgkast
bgkast UltraDork
5/21/15 9:20 a.m.

Great news.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider Dork
5/21/15 9:50 a.m.

That's good news. I expected that based on what you wrote in the one lap summery.

Warranty red tape is the worse. It took us 6 days to get our BMW fixed last time waiting for an SA# for a component that was clearly broke. At least we had a loaner car for the whole time.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
5/23/15 7:50 p.m.

The car is home. They couldn't figure out what was wrong, at all. At the request of GM they replaced the offending axle with the thought that if it happens again they will replace the diff. Because they can't physically see a problem, they're doing the old fashioned "replace parts until the problem goes away". The service manager was fantastic and I'm optimistic of good support from GM through them in the future.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
5/24/15 9:14 a.m.

but there won't be a repeat of the problem until you put it in the same distress …. so do they have to wait until next yrs One Lap (assuming you get to run it) and risk the axle actually separating while at speed on track ?

Fr3AkAzOiD
Fr3AkAzOiD Reader
5/24/15 9:37 a.m.

Or the warranty running out so its on your dime.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
6/4/15 12:13 p.m.

But wait! There's more!
Sounds lime GM called the dealer and asked for the rest of the parts.
What rest of the parts?
We told you to replace whe whole rear end and you sent us an axle. Where is the rest?
Uh.......
So it's going back tomorrow.

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