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JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Tech Editor & Production Manager
2/20/25 4:44 p.m.
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As the opening day for Touristenfahrten–the Nurburgring’s daily open-access tourist laps–nears, the track just announced that there will be something missing from the public sessions on the Nordschleife in 2025: motorcycles.

“The safety of all participants is our top priori…

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brandonsmash
brandonsmash HalfDork
2/20/25 5:11 p.m.

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
2/20/25 5:16 p.m.

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
2/20/25 5:16 p.m.

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

XLR99 (Forum Supporter)
XLR99 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/20/25 5:19 p.m.

You can say that again!

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
2/20/25 5:36 p.m.

It's hard argue with.

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Dork
2/20/25 6:24 p.m.

As a bike guy that's a bummer, but at the same time, there's a reason no one does mixed track days with cars and bikes.

Mattk
Mattk New Reader
2/20/25 6:59 p.m.

 

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
2/20/25 7:46 p.m.

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

IBTL

Chris Tropea
Chris Tropea Associate Editor
2/20/25 8:20 p.m.

I totally get why bike people would be upset about this but I am amazed that this didn't happen sooner. 

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
2/20/25 8:22 p.m.

Is there a minimum speed to drive the "Ring" ?

The only time I did it we were at a Vintage VW meet and I was driving a VW bus so we were all slow !

Or is there a time where the very fast cars can only run ,  with no slower cars to get in the way !

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera Dork
2/20/25 8:26 p.m.

The bikes have mixed.  That is probably for their own best traffic days.  It’s scary, honestly

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
2/20/25 8:55 p.m.

I've riddlen bikes, and driven cars. It's an entirely different experience. All together.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/21/25 8:56 a.m.
Appleseed said:

I've riddlen bikes, and driven cars. It's an entirely different experience. All together.

It's an entirely different kind of flying.

 

(okay, seriously, I was going to post "Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.  Altogether" and then you beat me to it laugh )

brandonsmash
brandonsmash HalfDork
2/21/25 9:44 a.m.

I feel like I started a meme somehow but I don't know what happened.

Just yesterday I was talking to a buddy of mine and I mentioned that it's a shame that my trailer isn't long enough to fit both Miatas. He suggested that I could trailer a Miata and a motorcycle so I could just roll up to the track and take whatever I pleased. I explained that I'd never seen a track day that allowed mixed traffic because of visibility concerns and size difference between vehicles, and that such a thing would be scary; only a couple hours after that conversation, this article popped up. 

Y'all might be braver than I but when I'm on track in a car I don't want to risk bumping a bike or hitting a rider who's sliding, and when I'm on track on a bike I don't want to risk a love tap by a car during a pass or playing leapfrog with vehicles of wildly different accelerative capacities. 

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/21/25 9:48 a.m.

In reply to brandonsmash :

Technically the ring is a toll road, not a track, so it's not really a track day is it?

 

brandonsmash
brandonsmash HalfDork
2/21/25 10:06 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

Ah, you got me there. It's just a regular toll road. With FIA curbing, 24-hour high-speed commutes, and lap records. It still baffles me why Pagani doesn't test their cars on the I-4 and why there aren't manufacturers clamoring to advertise their new sports cars' performance on the Sunpass! 

 

DancesWithCurves
DancesWithCurves New Reader
2/21/25 10:16 a.m.
brandonsmash said:

...trailer a Miata and a motorcycle so I could just roll up to the track and take whatever I pleased. I explained that I'd never seen a track day that allowed mixed traffic because of visibility concerns and size difference between vehicles, and that such a thing would be scary; only a couple hours after that conversation, this article popped up. 

Y'all might be braver than I but when I'm on track in a car I don't want to risk bumping a bike or hitting a rider who's sliding, and when I'm on track on a bike I don't want to risk a love tap by a car during a pass or playing leapfrog with vehicles of wildly different accelerative capacities. 

 

Ah, but some facilities have HPDE weekends where Fri/Sat is cars and Sun/Mon is bikes. Best of both worlds if that's your jam!

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/21/25 10:19 a.m.

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/21/25 10:29 a.m.
brandonsmash said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

Ah, you got me there. It's just a regular toll road. With FIA curbing, 24-hour high-speed commutes, and lap records. It still baffles me why Pagani doesn't test their cars on the I-4 and why there aren't manufacturers clamoring to advertise their new sports cars' performance on the Sunpass! 

 

Sometimes it's closed off, too smiley

NickD
NickD MegaDork
2/21/25 11:25 a.m.
XLR99 (Forum Supporter) said:

You can say that again!

Okay. "That."

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
2/21/25 11:35 a.m.
Apis Mellifera said:

The bikes have mixed.  That is probably for their own best traffic days.  It’s scary, honestly

Spoken words were never truer

Toyman!
Toyman! MegaDork
2/21/25 11:48 a.m.

I keep hearing that mixed traffic is scary. 

Asia doesn't agree. 

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Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/21/25 12:00 p.m.

Don't most (all?) US track ban open wheel cars mixing with regular door-slammers? I can't imagine any allowing bikes with cars as well.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
2/21/25 12:19 p.m.

Yeah, that "bump" "bump" when the bike rider in front of you slides under your car has to be annoying.

  Also:

Honestly, it's probably for the best that bikes have their own days. Mixed traffic is scary.

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