AaronBalto wrote: Depressing for those of us that own one of these. Crazy cheap.
Yep, it is. Sort of like what's going on with the Fiat 500 Abarths. A couple of years ago they were mid to upper 20ish. Now they are rolling the 2013s out the door brand new for just over 20K. OK it's not really the same thing but both scenarios suck.
I enjoy reaping the benefits of depreciation. I don't know if I'll ever buy a new car. I'm seriously considering an off-lease FR-S/BRZ, though.
Who's feeling lucky?
$11,000 911
http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/4376619348.html
I'm all about reaping the benefits of depreciation. But these cars were going for $20k four years ago, down from sticker prices of $60-70k. And we are talking about cars with ~30k miles. Higher mileage cars are now at less than a third of that. A perfect, low miles car is, what? $12-14k? And these are not over-rated cars with horrible reliability. They are really world-class sportscars with loads of cache and performance to back it up.
If this isn't the bottom, then where is it??
Woody wrote: Who's feeling lucky? $11,000 911 http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/4376619348.html
Don't show me stuff like that!!
The title doesn't bother me, I am just nervous about what kind of bills I'd rack up putting 700 miles a week on a 911.
So HERE is a nice 914 1.8 with 62k miles. Nice car. $11k.
It makes a whopping 91 horsepower. It has heat. Maybe.
Or, for maybe $3-5k LESS, you can have a Boxster S with fewer miles, AC, heated leather, a power roof, and all around awesome. Sorry to beat this horse so long and so hard, but current Boxster pricing is just making me nuts.
OK, I went and looked at. Now I've got a few difficult decisions. First, is this the best driving car in that price range? I think so. It's hard to imagine what could be better for 10k. It simply blows my Cooper S and 370 away for fun. But is it worth the potential trouble...that's another question entirely. My previous 944 Turbo still gives me withdrawals 5 years after its demise...it was like crack and the most fun of any car I've ever owned. It also cost me the most money in repairs. Do I want to go down that road again? I believe it could be even more costly, but it drives even better.
I'll make my decision when I get back in town this week, but what a nice car.
Compared to the 350z, cooper and a boxster, an rx8 will out handle them any day of the week, assuming all are stock or near that. I'd recommend you try one of those before. Using your boxster... I wish I had, I wouldn't have wasted that year with the boxster.
I've driven a bunch of rx8s, even raced one, and while in do like them, it doesn't give the same experience. I like my 370 better, but we all have different opinions. I actually like RX8s better than M3s though.
$6500.
If it needs a clutch, there's your excuse to upgrade the bearing.
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4371573389.html
Woody wrote: $6500. If it needs a clutch, there's your excuse to upgrade the bearing. http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4371573389.html
Douchemonger put "carrera" on the decklid. Who's he trying to fool?
icaneat50eggs wrote: someone really really needs to come up with an easy kit to swap in a subi engine for when the original engine explodes.
No. Because then people will swap Audi 01E transmissions into Subarus and the pricing on them is finally starting to get down into the dirt cheap range. The weakest Audi trans is stronger than the strongest Subaru trans and the 01E is Audi baddest mammajamma.
(The Boxster uses an 01E. People attach Audi sixes and eights to them a lot.)
AaronBalto wrote: So HERE is a nice 914 1.8 with 62k miles. Nice car. $11k. It makes a whopping 91 horsepower. It has heat. Maybe. Or, for maybe $3-5k LESS, you can have a Boxster S with fewer miles, AC, heated leather, a power roof, and all around awesome. Sorry to beat this horse so long and so hard, but current Boxster pricing is just making me nuts.
You mean for only $3-5k more than a Boxster, you can get a vintage Porsche that isn't laden with power leather everything like an Escalade?
Priorities... 
I can't believe how cheap these things are.
Too bad I still need rear seats.
(Now maybe a '99-'01 911 C4S...)
In reply to Knurled:Exactly! Just like and Escalade--if an Escalade could beat a 914 like a dog.
The price difference between the Boxster and 914 is only going to get worse for the immediate future. 914 prices have finally started to increase, and Boxster prices continue to fall.
If you've always wanted a clean 914, buy one now. Just look at the madness that has taken over the early 911 market! 
I've heard from a very reliable source that Porsche isn't supporting the used Boxster market well. (trim pieces no longer available / poor parts support) This guy (who deals with P cars for a living) calls the water-cooled 911 and Boxster "disposable" cars. So if you'd like a Boxster I guess the take home message is buy a good one now, and drive the snot out of it----- as restoring one later may not be an option.
In reply to Joe Gearin:
I have never needed a Boxster part that wasn't readily available. Plus, Porsche recently announced they will support the Boxster in the future through Porsche Classic. I am not worried about future parts availability.
Hmm, so no parts support for a 996 twin turbo in the future? I find that hard to believe...
Joe Gearin wrote: So if you'd like a Boxster I guess the take home message is buy a good one now, and drive the snot out of it----- as restoring one later may not be an option.
I guess that depends - the older Porsches have such good parts supply that restoring them can almost be a paint by numbers exercise. People still restore cars with close to zero parts availability, but at that point it just becomes harder.
I doubt that it'll be a problem getting mechanical parts for something like a 996 turbo, but issues with parts supply for the 3123 interior options, that's definitely something I can see happening.
Danny Shields wrote: In reply to Joe Gearin: I have never needed a Boxster part that wasn't readily available. Plus, Porsche recently announced they will support the Boxster in the future through Porsche Classic. I am not worried about future parts availability.
I hope this continues in the future. I was a bit shocked to hear about Porsche not supporting these cars, (and the 996 / 997) but the source knows far more than I do, so take that for what it's worth. He's also a bit of an aircooled loyalist, but drives a Boxster daily.
In any case, I'd hold true to the mantra of buying the very best one you can afford, as making a bad one right may not make a lot of financial sense in the long run.
Joe Gearin wrote: In any case, I'd hold true to the mantra of buying the very best one you can afford, as making a bad one right may not make a lot of financial sense in the long run.
That's always been the case with Porsches though, unless you're one of those people who can make pretty much anything yourself.
WonkoTheSane wrote: Compared to the 350z, cooper and a boxster, an rx8 will out handle them any day of the week, assuming all are stock or near that. I'd recommend you try one of those before. Using your boxster... I wish I had, I wouldn't have wasted that year with the boxster.
Well if your one of those people who are anti-porsche because of engine woes you definitely are not going to go with a RX8. At least a RX8 engine isn't going to cost as much and rebuilds are probably cheap and easy.
If we are talking 2000s cars only I would go W30 MR2 over these, not as an only car though. W30 MR2 would out handle RX8. That or S2000, depending on budget. S2000 can cost double a W30 MR2. If you can pick up a 2ZZ swapped MR2 that would make it more interesting.
I was a bit shocked to hear about Porsche not supporting these cars
They are doing a good job building a poor reputation.
kanaric wrote: At least a RX8 engine isn't going to cost as much and rebuilds are probably cheap and easy.
To do a rebuild "right" is probably around $3000-4000 or so. To do it "less than right" involves knowing people who will throw used parts your way for less than market value, or starting with an engine that didn't really need a rebuild to begin with.
In other news, M3s are looking better and better.
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