I'd have to say the Econoline as well. They threw a body and some modern engines at it in the 90s, but the basic van never changed.
I'd have to say the Econoline as well. They threw a body and some modern engines at it in the 90s, but the basic van never changed.
Joe Gearin wrote: Caterham is still making Lotus 7's that are pretty close to what you could buy back in the 60's. I know not mass produced, but that's a hell of a long run. Mass-produced, I'd have to go with G-Wagen--- it's been around forever.
I was under the impression that the Caterham of today has been tweaked and optimize some many times it shares almost nothing structurally with a "real" 7.
Misubishi something something? I got stuck with a rental galant in feb. It was absolute crap and felt about as innovative as any car thats 10 years old
I believe tht the Classic is still very much in touch with the original. I don't know if you can still get any of the old engines, maybe still a Kent block, but why would you want that, when a newer, more efficient (and lighter) engine is available? Also, I doubt that you would use a live axle rear, leave those to the Mustangs. You can still get the DeDion, which isn't that far from a live axle. I finally got to wedge myself into one, and if I buy one, it would have to be the SV. And I would take it with the pushrods suspension, and every other goodie possible.
In reply to DuctTape&Bondo:
NO. TSURU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sentra#Nissan_Tsuru.2FV16_.281992.E2.80.93present.29
SCARR wrote: In reply to DuctTape&Bondo: NO. TSURU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sentra#Nissan_Tsuru.2FV16_.281992.E2.80.93present.29
Gesundheit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9550771/Lada-Classic-ends-40-year-era-of-Russian-car-making.html
Javelin wrote: In reply to mndsm: But how much is still the same? Wheelbase is identical and every other exterior measurement is within 2/10ths of an inch. I'd assume a lot of the sheetmetal (roof, quarter panel skins, doors, etc) are the same, as is the glass.
Sheetmetal is completely different, interior is completely different, Motors got changed over to a Peugeot derived aluminum block/turbo instead of the iron/super combo that WAS present. Get an r53 and r56 next to each other and you'll see what I mean. Mostly done to meet EU regs regarding pedestrians being able to live through getting hit. I figure it's their fault.
In reply to DuctTape&Bondo:
oh, I see what you are saying.... but the Tsuru is STILL available, unlike the LADA.
For popularity and overall unchanged, its tough to beat the 99-present Ford Superduty trucks.
Different engines and transmissions, but the cab has never changed, doors, etc are a direct swap. Some guys are updating their classic 7.3s to the newer body styles and people have even remade the new badges with "7.3 Powerstroke" wording instead of whatever new fangled gizmo they have under the hood these days. The trucks gained coil springs in front and some point, some different sheet metal, and in 08 or 09 the sides of the bed and front fenders were changed, but its still the same look.
Javelin wrote: In reply to mndsm: But how much is still the same? Wheelbase is identical and every other exterior measurement is within 2/10ths of an inch. I'd assume a lot of the sheetmetal (roof, quarter panel skins, doors, etc) are the same, as is the glass.
No, only a small handful of suspension parts interchange between the R50/53 and the R56 MINI's. The engine and body parts are completely different in reality, if not casual appearance.
Ooh 93gsx forgot about the super duties. Those have been unchanged. 1 internets to you.
The XJ Cherokee is/was still being made last i heard...
Didn't the original Beetle go til like.... 2008 or something? In Mexico?
What about the "real" Mini?
Javelin wrote: Nissan X-Terra - just a nose job since 2000. The 370Z is still pretty much the same as the 2003 250Z. Actually, it looks like a *lot* of Nissan's models are "old"...
Not true. The Xterra got completely redesigned in 2005. Totally new motor(4.0 timing chain motor vs. tough but gutless 3.3 timing belt motor), chunkier body, different interior. It changed in '05 along with the Frontier and Pathfinder.
The 370Z is also totally different from the 350Z. Yeah, it's still a VQ engine, and you can't see out of either one, but they're different. Exteriors are totally different, interiors too.
In reply to Swank Force One:
I think we're talking about cars still in production. Longest/biggest production run will always be held by the air cooled Beetle.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: IT's finaly out of production, but the venerable VW Bug has to get a shout here. 1938 to 2003 virtualy unchanged!!
Actually the ACVW beetle is still in production in Brazil and a few other countries having been converted to run on sugar cane. Or it was up until the end of last year.
wearymicrobe wrote:Adrian_Thompson wrote: IT's finaly out of production, but the venerable VW Bug has to get a shout here. 1938 to 2003 virtualy unchanged!!Actually the ACVW beetle is still in production in Brazil and a few other countries having been converted to run on sugar cane. Or it was up until the end of last year.
Last I checked the last one rolled off the Mexican line in 2003, they still make the bus with more modern power in south America in camper trim only IIRC.
sethmeister4 wrote:Javelin wrote: Nissan X-Terra - just a nose job since 2000. The 370Z is still pretty much the same as the 2003 250Z. Actually, it looks like a *lot* of Nissan's models are "old"...Not true. The Xterra got completely redesigned in 2005. Totally new motor(4.0 timing chain motor vs. tough but gutless 3.3 timing belt motor), chunkier body, different interior. It changed in '05 along with the Frontier and Pathfinder. The 370Z is also totally different from the 350Z. Yeah, it's still a VQ engine, and you can't see out of either one, but they're different. Exteriors are totally different, interiors too.
Even so the 370z is starting to sell very poorly, they need to change the car and now.
In reply to Kenny_McCormic:
The bug did change though. They got got fuel injection, and light changes and such. Minor things, but they changed.
While I'm sure it's not the oldest, the honda ridgeline deserves a mention. I don't think a single bit on it has changed in 8-9 years. (at least '05)
Kenny_McCormic wrote:wearymicrobe wrote:Last I checked the last one rolled off the Mexican line in 2003, they still make the bus with more modern power in south America in camper trim only IIRC.Adrian_Thompson wrote: IT's finaly out of production, but the venerable VW Bug has to get a shout here. 1938 to 2003 virtualy unchanged!!Actually the ACVW beetle is still in production in Brazil and a few other countries having been converted to run on sugar cane. Or it was up until the end of last year.
I will try and dig up a link but Brazil was kicking out 100-200 or so a year up till 2012.
How about the VW Quantum/Santana? Introduced in1981. China made that same boxy body style until this year. 32 years. It was shocking to see showroom-new black Santanas in Shanghai last year.
In reply to wearymicrobe:
Are we talking about VW doing this, or a shed behind the parts plants in Brazil throwing a few cars together?
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