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logdog
logdog HalfDork
2/13/13 8:32 p.m.

The FB thread got me thinking. What would be the perfect build that would satisfy an internet forum? Discuss.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
2/13/13 8:38 p.m.

Nothing will ever satisfy a forum.

I mean, look at the response when it was announced that the Cruze would get a turbodiesel that would make more power, more torque, and get the same fuel economy as a Jetta for about the same price. Too expensive, no manual trans, too many accessories, not enough accessories, etc.

It could get 60mpg, be able to tow 8,000lb, come with your choice of paddle-shift twin-clutch, old-fashioned stir-stick, or CVT, have a hybrid option (with or without plug-in), out-handle a '90 Miata, and cost $10k, and someone will bitch that it's front wheel drive.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
2/13/13 8:39 p.m.

Check latest Hot Rod rag.....

oldtin
oldtin UltraDork
2/13/13 8:40 p.m.

A wartburg with porsche suspension and subie power with the detail of a rallycross e30 or a re-powered 308 gt/4 or maybe the development and multiple iterations of what started life as an MGB GT

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
2/13/13 8:44 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Check latest Hot Rod rag.....

That's fuel injected. Carbs can make more power than EFI.

Also, look at how far forward that engine is! Everyone knows that if the engine sits one millimeter ahead of the front axle, then the car will plow like an old farmer.

Plus, it's red. Red is dead. And pushrods? Really? In this day and age why would anyone spend that kind of money on ancient technology? No flathead engines were available?

(this post is snark. Do not attempt to take seriously. All gripes are based on actual sightings found online)

Ranger50
Ranger50 UberDork
2/13/13 8:50 p.m.

In reply to Knurled:

None taken because I have seen the same old tired arguments....

Only thing I can say though is a "streetable" 1500hp 727" beast. Oh and it will run on pump gas.

grafmiata
grafmiata Dork
2/13/13 8:50 p.m.

I agree with Knurled.

Here, we might feel that a complete CTS-V drivetrain-swap into a Prius would make sense, the are other forums out there who would rather see a Prius-swap into the Caddy, because it makes sense to them...

I prefer the former, which is why I am here.

Can't please everyone, so why even try?

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
2/13/13 8:53 p.m.
grafmiata wrote: Can't please everyone, so why even try?

troof

JtspellS
JtspellS HalfDork
2/13/13 8:58 p.m.

This forum? 5.0/LSx Miata swap

RX forums 3/4/6 rotor swaps

Anywhere else total and udder hopelessness.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
2/13/13 9:02 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Only thing I can say though is a "streetable" 1500hp 727" beast. Oh and it will run on pump gas.

Heh. I recall posting a link to a dyno pull of some big block and the first response was "It took an engine that big to make only 900hp? FAIL"

I then pointed out that it made more HP/l than any production engine, and it did it without having to rev over 7000rpm.

I'm not quite so sure that anything over about 700hp is terribly practical for the street. You can never actually use the power under any reasonable circumstances, and even if you could, the drivetrain work it takes to tolerate that stuff is outtasight. One of our projects-in-planning is a low four figures big-block Chevelle and the biggest hurdle we're looking at is a transmission that won't grenade, yet is pleasant to live with. We're thinking an ultra-beefed 4L80 will be in the cards. FAST can control it. Next hurdle: Incorporating some sort of electronic switch into the factory staple shifter.

Hoop
Hoop SuperDork
2/14/13 12:24 a.m.

The body-on-frame construction of a P71, the small open-top body of a Miata, the driving dynamics of an E30, and, lest we forget, LS1 power.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic HalfDork
2/14/13 1:52 a.m.

Which internet forum? I always thought one of the prius/mpg oriented groups would enjoy my pipe dream of inserting a 500" caddy motor in the hatch of a late model Prius. Yes, Ive sort of measured, should fit using a Eldorado TH425 FWD trans.

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
2/14/13 2:46 a.m.
Knurled wrote: out-handle a '90 Miata

unpossible!

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
2/14/13 2:49 a.m.
EvanB wrote:
Knurled wrote: out-handle a '90 Miata
unpossible!

possible, especially after we filled the miata with cement.

Also remember, the perfect forum car would have to have a pair of M2's behind the headlights and be able to catch things on fire....

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
2/14/13 2:58 a.m.
yamaha wrote: Also remember, the perfect forum car would have to have a pair of M2's behind the headlights and be able to catch things on fire....

I thought it was the car that caught on fire...

logdog
logdog HalfDork
2/14/13 5:27 a.m.
Hoop wrote: The body-on-frame construction of a P71, the small open-top body of a Miata, the driving dynamics of an E30, and, lest we forget, LS1 power.

IRS or solid axle?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UltimaDork
2/14/13 6:49 a.m.

Depends which forum. Are we talking GRM, CM (now on the same board but not exactly the same crowd), Pirate4x4, a supercar forum, a "stance" forum?

I think the most interesting builds on here are Nashco's Fiero, the Little Lamb-borghini, Loosecannon's Car Formerly Known as an MGB, the Midlana, and Joey's Datsun Phaeton replica (not as interesting performance-wise, but definitely the highest grassroots factor).

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 HalfDork
2/14/13 6:54 a.m.

See but even on this board people won't agree. I'd say the Fubaru, rx7 hillclimber, the 325 rallycrosser, the 911 rallycrosser, the 02 WRX rally car, and swank force one are the most interesting.

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
2/14/13 8:54 a.m.

This is an easy one to answer.

"Whatever car this woman or her sister or best friend is working on"

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UltimaDork
2/14/13 9:15 a.m.

^Not perfect for me, way too much ink

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
2/14/13 9:17 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: ^Not perfect for me, way too much ink

It looks like she was already caught and released - the hook is still in her lip.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
2/14/13 9:19 a.m.
Hoop wrote: The body-on-frame construction of a P71, the small open-top body of a Miata, the driving dynamics of an E30, and, lest we forget, LS1 power.

So you are suggesting starting with the frame of a P71, and turning that into a LWB Locost? Sounds fun.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
2/14/13 9:44 a.m.

Alan Cesar
Alan Cesar Associate Editor
2/14/13 9:51 a.m.
JtspellS wrote: Anywhere else total and udder hopelessness.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
2/14/13 10:39 a.m.
Knurled wrote: I'm not quite so sure that anything over about 700hp is terribly practical for the street...

Chuckle! My opinion goes closer to 300 hp.

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