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Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
7/8/12 12:19 p.m.

Anyone know if there's a RWD trans application for, say, a Duratec V6 out of a Mazda6?

Cursory searching reveals nothing substantial other than "d00d just get a 5.0 LOL"

singleslammer
singleslammer Reader
7/8/12 12:40 p.m.

The Lincoln LS had a Getrag manual in a few models that was behind a 3.0 duratec. However, everything I have read points to these being not very sturdy transmissions.

Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
7/8/12 12:59 p.m.

Oh duh, I forgot the LS. And those things had the 5L55 from the factory, too.

admc58
admc58 Reader
7/8/12 1:59 p.m.

The Manual trans Lincoln LS was only rated for the V6, per the design engineers that I talked with back when it rolled out. It would not hold up to the V8 torque. If I remember...the torque rating for the trans was only about 5-10lbft above what the LS-V6 put out.

Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
7/8/12 2:07 p.m.

That's fine, I prefer automatics anyway. Automatic + MegaShift = Cheap way to paddle shifters.

singleslammer
singleslammer Reader
7/8/12 9:46 p.m.
Knurled wrote: That's fine, I prefer automatics anyway.

I feel like thems fightin' words round here.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/8/12 10:02 p.m.

yep ls is the one to get the trans from. however avoid the aj versions of the motor atleast ones with the electronic throttle.

WhiteLX
WhiteLX Reader
7/9/12 2:15 a.m.

What about the manual trans behind the 3.7L Mustang? I believe it was based of the duratec V6, but I am not 100% the bellhousing pattern is the same.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
7/9/12 4:01 a.m.
WhiteLX wrote: What about the manual trans behind the 3.7L Mustang? I believe it was based of the duratec V6, but I am not 100% the bellhousing pattern is the same.

Quick! To the junkyar........Wait, how many of the 3.7L Mustangs are going to be wrecked already?

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 7:03 a.m.

ahhh... yes the new duratec's do have the same bellhousing as the old ones..... problem solved!

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
7/9/12 7:09 a.m.
KATYB wrote: ahhh... yes the new duratec's do have the same bellhousing as the old ones..... problem solved!

I'm not so sure about that. The families are not related, and I can't think of a trans that is shared between the two engines at the moment- especially the older 3.0ls.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 7:22 a.m.

shared no.... but the engine was designed to be partially backwards compatible(per a friend at ford) someone find out if the trans's in the fusion are the same for the 3.0 and 3.5.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 7:24 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_bellhousing_patterns see yep the same just as the sho 3.4 v8 is the same pattern too.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 7:31 a.m.

ok so the sho is not identical but it works with a lil work.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
7/9/12 8:40 a.m.
KATYB wrote: shared no.... but the engine was designed to be partially backwards compatible(per a friend at ford) someone find out if the trans's in the fusion are the same for the 3.0 and 3.5.

Well, YMMV. I'm still not aware of any compatability between the engines, what so ever. But it's someone else's time and money being spent here.

I have worked on both engines, too.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/9/12 9:46 a.m.

I thought the 3.0L duratec was completely changed for the fusion....could be wrong though.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
7/9/12 10:42 a.m.

Take a fwd duratec and move it to the rear. There you go, it's rwd.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
7/9/12 10:51 a.m.
RossD wrote: Take a fwd duratec and move it to the rear. There you go, it's rwd.

this = fun

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/9/12 11:06 a.m.
RossD wrote: Take a fwd duratec and move it to the rear. There you go, it's rwd.

This formula gets very rowdy with the sho engine back there.....

WhiteLX
WhiteLX Reader
7/9/12 12:01 p.m.

I've been wanting to do a duratec V6 powered 914. Use one of the Kennedy adapters for the transaxle.

Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
7/9/12 1:18 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
RossD wrote: Take a fwd duratec and move it to the rear. There you go, it's rwd.
this = fun

That's a little hard to do in an RX-7.

One of the things I saw was that the 3.5/3.7 is NOT the same as the 2.5/3.0.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
7/9/12 1:24 p.m.

In reply to Knurled:

RX-7? Oh- then you should know that the 3.0l Miata was done with a full blown LS powertrain. It fit pretty well.

(and I recall an 3rd gen RX7 that did have a 3.0l installed into it, to the point of remembering that it was black- but I never saw it actually move)

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 3:03 p.m.

no they are not the same engine however it does share the same bolt pattern and there are a few other things thats that can be swapped back and forth.

KATYB
KATYB HalfDork
7/9/12 3:03 p.m.

no they are not the same engine however it does share the same bolt pattern and there are a few other things thats that can be swapped back and forth.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/9/12 3:06 p.m.
WhiteLX wrote: I've been wanting to do a duratec V6 powered 914. Use one of the Kennedy adapters for the transaxle.

Search for the sho powered 914......you'll be interested.

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