RWD hatchbacks?

Have there been any RWD hatchbacks made after about 1990 sold in the US? The only ones I can think of aren't "really" hatches: S13 240SX, Camaro, Foxbody Mustang, Mk III Supra.

As I type this out, only one comes to mind: the 318ti.

BMW Clown Shoe

Mercedes C230 Kompressor.

I really do not consider the Z3 Coupe a hatchback... but yes.. the 318ti and the C230 do qualify.. and might be the only ones

How is a foxbody hatchback not a hatchback?

Because Fastback.

In reply to mad_machine:

The clown shoes are closer to hatchbacks than the fastback hatchbacks though......

I think the benz and bimmer are the only two in this category. The benz has more power, but it weighs alot more than the bimmer.

In reply to Ranger50: Same reason the Mk III Supra and 4th-gen F-body aren't.

Swank Force One wrote: Because Fastback.

So a Vega wasn't a hatchback? I always defined a hatch back by whether or not it had a hatch.

1991 Mazda RX7 ?

3rd gen RX7s

There is a difference between Fast Backs and hatch Backs.. regardless.. he was asking 90s. Not too many vegas were built in that time period

bravenrace wrote:

Swank Force One wrote: Because Fastback.

So a Vega wasn't a hatchback? I always defined a hatch back by whether or not it had a hatch.

So a Pinto is a fastback now, as a comparison model? I always thought a hatchback had the "trunklid" hinged off the roof and fastbacks are a continuation of a swoopy bodyline with the trunklid hinged in the middle.

bravenrace wrote:

Swank Force One wrote: Because Fastback.

So a Vega wasn't a hatchback? I always defined a hatch back by whether or not it had a hatch.

+1

I consider the back glass being integral with the trunklid = hatchback

ReverendDexter wrote: In reply to Ranger50: Same reason the Mk III Supra and 4th-gen F-body aren't.

Asininely picky. JMO.

Saab 900, both classic and NG were hatches, 9000 too.

Bug eye WRX and SAABaru cousin, although they were the 00's not the 90's, how about a Scoobie Outback Sport?

D'oh, I forgot the CT20 Escort.

But Saab = FWD. RWD is what we are talking about.

If BMW was a person, I'd smack them on the back of the head for not bringing the 1-series hatchback to the states.

Deep down they'd know it was deserved, but would still argue that the 318ti proved to them that a hatchback model was a no-go in the states. I wouldn't buy their story though, as most people with half a brain would understand that using a relatively under-powered, controversially styled derivative of an existing model wasn't going to sell in big numbers in the first friggin place.

For the record I like the 318ti, and almost bought one recently. I don't think the world at large shares my fandom though.

but not RWD Adrian...

My consideration of Hatchback vs fastback is where the hatch ends. On a fast Back it does NOT go all the way to bumper hight. On a hatchback it does. The 240sx, Foxbody, and Fbody cars do not have openings that go all the way down to the bumper.

Was the Alfa Milano ever offered in a hatcback? Wiki says it was made until '92; whether it was here in the states... IDK.

Porsch 944?

Matt B wrote: If BMW was a person, I'd smack them on the back of the head for not bringing the 1-series hatchback to the states. Deep down they'd know it was deserved, but would still argue that the 318ti proved to them that a hatchback model was a no-go in the states. I wouldn't buy their story though, as most people with half a brain would understand that using a relatively under-powered, controversially styled derivative of an existing model wasn't going to sell in big numbers in the first friggin place. For the record I like the 318ti, and almost bought one recently. I don't think the world at large shares my fandom though.

the 318ti was not even that big a seller in europe.. Personally I think the hatch is the prettiest of the 1 series cars... but really.. if BMW can sell the X6.. then it can afford to bring the 3 door 1 series here

Ranger50 wrote: Asininely picky. JMO.

FWIW, I agree with you.

Last RWD hatch ever was an '80s Starlet AFAIK...and I get the difference between a hatchback and a coupe where the hood and rear glass move together. A hatchback has a blunt back end and definitely no significant backward projection of sheet metal after the bottom of the back glass.

GameboyRMH wrote: Last RWD hatch *ever* was an '80s Starlet AFAIK...and I get the difference between a hatchback and a coupe where the hood and rear glass move together. A hatchback has a blunt back end and definitely no significant backward projection of sheet metal after the bottom of the back glass.

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...But is also shorter than a wagon?

(edit: I should stop. I find these 'name games' to be a bit useless. A rose by any other name is still a rose...)

Haven't there been roughly 8,962,444,065,003 SUVs built since 1990? All of them hatchback, probably 20% RWD