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Snrub
Snrub Dork
3/20/25 10:10 a.m.

Apparently some of the Chinese evs can do u-turns and other advanced self driving maneuvers. It sounds like their industry may be a generation ahead by the end of the year.

BYD is claiming forthcoming 5 minutes rapid charges.

Tesla had a like a 10-year head start on EVs, self driving, etc. but seems to have squandered that lead.

iansane
iansane SuperDork
3/20/25 10:19 a.m.

In reply to Snrub :

I think I might take those claims with a grain of salt until results are proven.

theruleslawyer
theruleslawyer HalfDork
3/20/25 10:20 a.m.
VolvoHeretic said:

In reply to confuZion3 :

Good to know. Just tell the cops to send the ticket to Musk, he was driving.

Despite the name, its still just an advanced driver aid, not a self driving car. That means you have about as much legal protection as if your were speeding with adaptive cruise control. You're still supposed to be watching it at all times. Still it'll be an interesting legal question once full self driving cars start showing up.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
3/20/25 10:28 a.m.
Mr_Asa said:

In reply to alfadriver :

Its not that the code runs too slowly, its that they have to keep programming for edge cases that pop up 1 in 1,000,000 cases of someonegetting in a car.  Unfortunately thats a couple hundred cases a day.

Given the rate of accidents per day, those 1 in 1,000,000 cases are the ones that cause deaths.  So those do have to be dealt with.  A couple of hundred per day is exactly how many people die a day in car crashes.  In 2022, there were 42k auto related deaths.  That's 115 per day.  At one point, the US was under 30k/year, which is less than 100/day.

Meaning all of those 1:1,000,000 instances are not just significant, they ARE the promise of self driving cars.  If the system can't deal with that, then it will never be better than human drivers.  And then it's just another costly system that delivers less than it should.

Back the code running too slow given that's exactly what it's supposed to be dealing with.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
3/20/25 10:34 a.m.
Snrub said:

 

BYD is claiming forthcoming 5 minutes rapid charges.

 

An individual cell may be capable of 5 min chargers, but until we have MW chargers available, cars will never charge anywhere close to that fast.  One gallon of gas is 120MJ, to charge that in 5 min (or 300 seconds), it's 400kW.  Most EV's have store more energy than 1 gallon of gas.  (we really need 1000V battery systems, since to charge at 400kw, it's "just" 400A.)

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