patgizz
PowerDork
12/22/15 9:44 p.m.
older circle track chassis, built by localish race shop at an unknown date.
i will put up more pictures in the next day or two.
i have taken some basic measurements. the wheelbase is 105" and same on both sides, it's not shorter on the right like another circle track chassis i bought and lots of others i've seen. it is also square, not offset. both fronts sides are identical. control arms same, mounts in same place, shocks located same. the only thing that is offset is that the rear axle has a slightly longer tube and axle on the right side. that appears to be easily and cheaply fixed with a used tube and axle shaft to match the left side. could probably sell the longer tube and axle and come out in a wash.
the rear suspension probably needs some engineering to make it go both ways, and it has nothing in the way of sway bars.
thoughts? most of the cage tubes are too small for scca rules, and if i do anything with it i'd like to make it have 2 seats. pull the quick change rear, throw a FWD drivetrain in the back and make a buggy? put a classic body shell on it and drive it on the street? not sure yet.
It needs to be street even if you break laws to do it.
patgizz
PowerDork
12/22/15 10:43 p.m.
Ohio is easy as long as its 25+ years old. I have a potential 40+ year old body with title and plates that is a definite possibility. I would have to chop off some of the cage, drop shell on, then fit new cage to the body so 2 seats could be installed. If i build another single seat racecar my 4 year old will be mad, he's already sore that the electrical panel and nitrous bottle are where he thinks his seat should be in the datsun
stroker
SuperDork
12/22/15 11:02 p.m.
It's an unsafe piece of crap. I'll give you $50 for it if you deliver.
Find a 40 Ford hulk, cut off the rusted out bottom half, and bolt on the licence plate with fresh tags. Nothing else is acceptable.
pimpm3
Dork
12/22/15 11:54 p.m.
Easy...
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46268
Usomehow affix the body panels of a boring car. Then stop light troll....hard!
noddaz
Dork
12/23/15 6:42 a.m.
So let me understand this. You have a chassis that is set up for a V8 in the front, a quick change in the back. And you want to change that. I am liking the mini van body idea. Or the rusted out old car. Don't lose the quick change. Seriously. I mean it.
NickD
Reader
12/23/15 6:47 a.m.
Put two turbocharged Grand Prix GTP drivetrains in it and make a 1300hp, 12 cylinder, AWD death machine, of course!
https://www.youtube.com/embed/3_qwLb9iLII
STM317
Reader
12/23/15 6:51 a.m.
Am I seeing a coilspring inside the passenger compartment?
Also, I'm with everybody else, take the easy route and keep it front-engine. Place whatever bodywork you desire on top, or just add some simple lights/windshield to make it street legal
RossD
UltimaDork
12/23/15 7:18 a.m.
Find 4.8 LS and a single turbo (mounted it to be at least partially visible), find an old 4 speed that's capable of lasting, keep the quick change, make it a two seater, and find something rusty on the bottom and use the top half to re-body it.
XLR99
HalfDork
12/23/15 7:41 a.m.
Clearly this needs an Aztek body for maximal ridiculousness, as well as potential for both soccrmom and overall Challenge victory.
Think of the hilarity of showing up, well, anywhere with something that sounds like NASCAR and looks like Walter White.
I vote to keep the overall layout, though.
I'll say it again: dart/duster/demon body with working lights. If the elky sells today, I'll drive to Ohio, beg you to sell it to me, and do it myself for the challenge.
The other idea I now have is something along the lines of a rotted out tri five Chevy or impala. With the 4.8turbo and four speed previously discussed.
Kreb
UltraDork
12/23/15 8:12 a.m.
Appleseed wrote:
Find a 40 Ford hulk, cut off the rusted out bottom half, and bolt on the licence plate with fresh tags. Nothing else is acceptable.
^^^^^!!!!!
moderator: please delete the other responses that merely muddy the waters.
LS or SBC... Then rallycross the E36 M3 out of it! All that power... No weight to speak of would be a hoon fest on dirt.
Kreb wrote:
Appleseed wrote:
Find a 40 Ford hulk, cut off the rusted out bottom half, and bolt on the licence plate with fresh tags. Nothing else is acceptable.
^^^^^!!!!!
moderator: please delete the other responses that merely muddy the waters.
I must loosely paraphrase Ice Muthaberkeleyin T from the near the end of New Jack City:
"I want you to build that so bad, my dick is hard!"
In reply to patgizz:
I'll buy the quick Change.. let's see you paid $600 for the car I'll give you $75 for the quick change
44Dwarf
UltraDork
12/23/15 8:47 a.m.
STM317 wrote:
Am I seeing a coilspring inside the passenger compartment?
Yes its called a 5th coil.
Its a traction control device off the torque arm of the rearend. It's moved front to back and the spring and damping rates swapped depending on the dirt conditions dry slick or wet and tacky.
With locked rears allowing the housing to rotate some when the driver gets back in to the gas allows some time for the chasis to react transfer the weight to the back thus allowing the contact patch time to adjust instead of just shearing and lighting the tires up.
Cars with a 105" wheelbase
105" is a bit on the smaller side (Aztek is 108"). Obviously, you could shorten or lengthen whatever you want to match, but the above list would be the easy button.
-Rob
NickD
Reader
12/23/15 8:56 a.m.
rob_lewis wrote:
Cars with a 105" wheelbase
105" is a bit on the smaller side (Aztek is 108"). Obviously, you could shorten or lengthen whatever you want to match, but the above list would be the easy button.
-Rob
The BMW 8-series would be hilarous. Or the Ford Bronco
STM317
Reader
12/23/15 9:03 a.m.
44Dwarf wrote:
STM317 wrote:
Am I seeing a coilspring inside the passenger compartment?
Yes its called a 5th coil.
Its a traction control device off the torque arm of the rearend. It's moved front to back and the spring and damping rates swapped depending on the dirt conditions dry slick or wet and tacky.
With locked rears allowing the housing to rotate some when the driver gets back in to the gas allows some time for the chasis to react transfer the weight to the back thus allowing the contact patch time to adjust instead of just shearing and lighting the tires up.
Cool. That's why I hang out here. Somebody always knows.
Why put a body on it?? Get plates, add second seat and lexan window, enjoy the ridiculousness.