Pat
Pat HalfDork
9/18/13 9:00 a.m.

Does anyone know a supplier for steel coil over sleeves? Everything I've found has been aluminum, but steel will be much easier for me to fab and likely cheaper.

Thanks, Pat

DaveEstey
DaveEstey UltraDork
9/18/13 9:18 a.m.

Haven't seen any steel ones. Try a roundy-round racing site.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf SuperDork
9/18/13 12:44 p.m.

Only steel ones I know of were the old 2 1/8 Carrea ones and THEY SUCKED due to super fine thread that dust would clog never mind sand would dent the threads

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
9/18/13 2:15 p.m.

What do you need to fab where you can't use an aluminum sleeve?

Nashco
Nashco UberDork
9/18/13 2:44 p.m.

What size are you looking for? I know they exist, but selection is limited so size will be important.

http://www.colemanracing.com/Adjuster-Sleeve-Coil-Over-P4565.aspx
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=2243_2244&products_id=3450

Also, not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but keep in mind that since aluminum is available in lots of sizes, lighter, and cheaper (due to volume manufacturing, not material cost), that you might consider welding something (washer/ring/plate/whatever) as a fixation point that the aluminum can push against. I'm sure you've considered this and have your reasons, just saying it in case since you've been pretty vague. Apparently you've got something up your SLEEVE. Ha, get it?

Bryce

Pat
Pat HalfDork
9/18/13 4:23 p.m.

Up my sleeve...ha ha.

What I want to do is make an adapter plate to run a coil over spring with an adjustable sleeve on the rear axle set up of a K based Chrysler. To do this, I'd actually have to weld the sleeve to a plate to locate the spring as well as to adjust ride height, then bolt the plate to the factory spring perch. I'm not actually using it as a coil over...but I want to use the spring. Make sense? This would give me me a ton of adjustability and spring rate options, neither of which I have now.

If push comes to shove, I can use an aluminum sleeve, but I'll have to make aluminum plate adapters and find a buddy to TIG it (I only have a MIG). I know there is weight advantage, but I have a ton of scrap steel for this project. I'll have to find some aluminum plate on the cheap to make this work on a challenge budget.

Although, looking at the Coleman racing link, the steel sleeve is twice the cost. Hhhmm...anyone have any scrap 1/4" aluminum plate?

Make sense?

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
9/18/13 4:40 p.m.

I dig what you're trying to do.

Were it me doing it, I'd make a couple steel stubs to locate the threaded adjusters. Be lots cheaper, I'd think. One scrap front strut should provide plenty of tubing for making the stubs.

I remember a Focus coilover "kit" that didn't bother with anything to locate the adjusters, they just sorta sat on the control arm and that worked well enough too.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce SuperDork
9/18/13 4:46 p.m.

Look for steel tubing (old strut bodies?) That's the proper diameter to fit aluminum sleeves over and then weld the steel tube to the plate. Done and done.
Edit: or exactly what knurled said. Here I am thinking I'm all smart.

Nashco
Nashco UberDork
9/18/13 5:02 p.m.

I'd make a steel stub that an aluminum sleeve slides over. Those ebay special Chinese adjusters are worth about a dollar each, and any $20XX veteran should already have a pile of them...at least, I do! Scrap steel tube and plate to make the locator, then slide the sleeve over it. Nearly free and you don't need to pull any favors with welding buddies.

Bryce

edit: Knurled got it.

turboswede
turboswede PowerDork
9/18/13 5:03 p.m.

OR you could run circle track weight jackers down through the tops of the spring perches.

ronholm
ronholm HalfDork
9/18/13 5:04 p.m.

A fine thread inch or larger nut and bolt?

tr8todd
tr8todd HalfDork
9/18/13 6:35 p.m.

1.5" gas pipe makes for good stub locaters. That's what I use on the rears of the TR8. I weld them in the center of the upper spring perch on the frame rail. Instead of using the threaded adjuster on the bottom of the spring, I use it on the top. Easy Peasy. Works the same way as a spring jack on a circle track car except it's a coil over sleeve. No messing with the lower control arm at all.

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
9/18/13 6:57 p.m.

GRM always finds a way

Pat
Pat HalfDork
9/18/13 7:01 p.m.

All good suggestions...thanks!

44Dwarf
44Dwarf SuperDork
9/18/13 7:19 p.m.

http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.aspx?itemid=641

only thing it missing is some rolled key stock to keep the spring from moving around. A&A is cheaper them buying the stock and making it...

44

Wally
Wally MegaDork
9/18/13 7:48 p.m.

You could also look for Hidden coil spring adjusters or coilover eliminators http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Adjustable-Hidden-Spring-Shim,3389.html

http://www.colemanracing.com/Coil-Over-Eliminator-P4560.aspx

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
9/18/13 8:01 p.m.
44Dwarf wrote: http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.aspx?itemid=641 only thing it missing is some rolled key stock to keep the spring from moving around.

I make my own upper spring hats out of steel plate and washers. Steel plate cut roughly 3.5" square with a hole in the middle to clear the strut shaft (rubs slightly, doesn't matter in the real world), a large washer on the bottom welded around to hold the spring in place, and some washers on the top to space it far enough away from the strut mount. Mazda style mounts where the strut shaft is stationary and only the spring seat rotates.

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