Msogren's Jetta popped up at the bottom left side of the screen, it came from Readers' Rides. Why is it lifting its leg?
If it's a turn left car, wouldn't you want 15" wheels on the right and 13s on the left enhancing left turns? The car appears to be empty in the photo.
Dan
There is a driver in there. It is just a FWD VW cornering and lifting its inside rear
OK, didn't see the driver in ths small photo.
Thanx.
it's lifting it's leg for the same reason nearly any race prepped (or even street car with sporty suspension) FWD car will lift it's leg cornering: weight transfer. also, I don't think oval racing rules will allow you to stagger wheel diameters. you can stagger wheel widths and tire diameter/tread width all day every day, no problem, but I've never heard of staggered diameters being used
I used to run 5" of stagger on my mini stock. Not sure how it would work on a FWD car.
Nonetheless, this just came up on the bottom left of my screen, and it looks equally as awesome
Just guessing, probably has a rear beam axle like my SE-R. On a fast sweeper, the inside rear wheel will sometimes hang in the air long enough to stop spinning. Looks pretty cool with three of four wheels going like crazy and the fourth sitting motionless in mid air. I'm told its a sign I need more front spring, but it helps rotate the front end, so I kind of like it.
BTW: That pose is affectionately known as the peeing dog or the three legged dog.
My old Focus ZX3 did that, but it was sprung too tight. Seems like all of the Evo's I see do the same as well.
My Celica has and does do that as well.
When I work corners at some track that have long turns you can watch some FWD cars lift the inside rear tire and carry it all the way through the turn. Some wheels will stop spining, some keep spining. The more stock the car is the higher the wheels lifts, or so it seems. Not all FWD cars will do this. It has to have a beam axel that doubles as a sway bar. Mark I VW's ( Rabbits & Scriocco's) are one example.
jimbbski wrote: When I work corners at some track that have long turns you can watch some FWD cars lift the inside rear tire and carry it all the way through the turn. Some wheels will stop spining, some keep spining. The more stock the car is the higher the wheels lifts, or so it seems. Not all FWD cars will do this. It has to have a beam axel that doubles as a sway bar. Mark I VW's ( Rabbits & Scriocco's) are one example.
Actually VW has been using rear beams in all the A chassis up until the A5 (2003 and newer) and now have back pedaled a bit by using beam rears on the lower ended A7 chassis.
Probably why the peeing dog stance was so well know in the VW community
Zomby woof wrote:
That .. is incredible. Must have some serious brakes and great rubber.
My ZX2SR even with independant rear suspension would lift it's inside rear.
I believe it has a lot to do with weight distrbution.
911's lift the inside front wheel.
Or you can get technical about roll couple distribution.
jimbbski wrote: Not all FWD cars will do this. It has to have a beam axel that doubles as a sway bar. Mark I VW's ( Rabbits & Scriocco's) are one example.
No, all it requires is enough rear stiffness. All my stock DOHC Saturns did it and they have independent rears and fairly small rear sway bars. My Storm stopped lifting as much when I put a much stiffer rear bar in. My stock SC2 has also lifted both rears on occasion.
I've seen an FSAE car (without aero) lift wheels both front and back depending on load.
dculberson wrote:Zomby woof wrote:That .. is incredible. Must have some serious brakes and great rubber.
Or a bigass bump just off camera. ST EF's have E36 M3ty brakes and marginal rubber. There's no way that's a stoppie.
kazoospec wrote: BTW: That pose is affectionately known as the peeing dog or the three legged dog.
Fire hydrant salute!
I was under the impression that any stiffly-sprung FWD car with good rubber on the wheels could pull one.
DILYSI Dave wrote:dculberson wrote:Or a bigass bump just off camera. ST EF's have E36 M3ty brakes and marginal rubber. There's no way that's a stoppie.Zomby woof wrote:That .. is incredible. Must have some serious brakes and great rubber.
Or maybe someone photoshopped out the jack stands ;)
jimbbski wrote: It has to have a beam axel that doubles as a sway bar. Mark I VW's ( Rabbits & Scriocco's) are one example.
not so... I have a pic on the wall behind my work bench at the plant of my '01 Integra on 3 wheels mid-corner.... 400# front springs, 550# rear springs... 22mm rear sway bar.......
my '91 track day CRX does all the time
both have IRS......
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