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Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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2/24/21 10:35 p.m.

In reply to A 401 CJ :

Good catch.  I was sorta referring to them as a family since it's the same block, but I see how I was potentially confusing.

759NRNG (Forum Partidario)
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) UberDork
2/25/21 8:56 a.m.

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/25/21 9:30 a.m.

My great uncle had one of those in buttercream yellow with cream leather.

759NRNG (Forum Partidario)
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2/25/21 9:34 a.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

My great uncle had one of those in buttercream yellow with cream leather.

Oh yea beggie

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/25/21 11:13 a.m.
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

 

Oh wow! 

This thread makes me want to get a 60/70's 472/500 Cadi!

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) MegaDork
2/25/21 11:34 a.m.

 

In reply to yupididit :

The best thing about the mid 70s was the cool interiors.

11GTCS
11GTCS HalfDork
2/25/21 7:20 p.m.
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

An older family friend had the 1975 version of that car in that color with the 500 CI engine.  I drove it once and that hood looked 20 feet long from behind the wheel.   They towed a great big (over 30 foot) camper with it, he claimed it had a factory tow package that included a 2 speed rear end.  I’ve never been able to find anything online to verify the 2 speed axle part but it absolutely pulled that camper from Nevada to New England and then out to California. 

He told me a story about leaving Henderson NV heading east.  There’s a decent grade for several miles heading towards Boulder City and the Arizona line (I’ve driven the newer interstate version myself).   He was chugging up the hill at 55 or so and was gaining on a Suburban towing a similar sized trailer so it was either slow down or go left and pass.  He put his foot into it pulled out and walked by the Suburban with its 454 wailing away in 2nd gear just to hold 40 mph.  Fast forward 20 minutes or so, he had pulled into a gas station to check everything after the first few miles and the Suburban guy pulls in behind.  The guy walks up and says “OK, what in God’s name is under the hood of that Caddy”. If any of you GM / Cadillac nerds know anything about the “tow package”, I’d love to hear it.   There was definitely something unique looking about the rear end when I looked underneath.  

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/25/21 8:03 p.m.

70 Deville

 

Are these seats and door panels oem?

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
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2/25/21 8:04 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

They can't be, they aren't all busticated in ways that would make an E36 blush.  smiley

 

When I think of large 70s GMs, I think of ridiculously heavy sheetmetal and interior plastic that crumbles if you look at it too forcefully, and is usually flapping in the breeze.

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UltraDork
2/25/21 10:58 p.m.

I keep hoping Keith will sell his, whenever I see this thread pop up ! 

NOT A TA
NOT A TA SuperDork
2/25/21 11:10 p.m.
yupididit said:

70 Deville

 

Are these seats and door panels oem?

 

Ya, they had interior patterns like that. That textured pattern material had a weird feel to it as the seats got older and dried out. Looks like it's got a rim blow steering wheel also.

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) MegaDork
2/26/21 6:28 a.m.

In reply to yupididit :

Yes, yes they are. I had a 70 Sedan DeVille with that same interior. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
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2/26/21 7:36 a.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

My great uncle had one of those in buttercream yellow with cream leather.

Did your great uncle live in Lower Bucks PA around 1990?  

I used to work with an older fellow who bought one of these (or roughly the same era).  He/we jokingly called it "The Banana Boat".  

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/26/21 7:38 a.m.

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

I want

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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2/26/21 7:54 a.m.
11GTCS said:
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

An older family friend had the 1975 version of that car in that color with the 500 CI engine.  I drove it once and that hood looked 20 feet long from behind the wheel.   They towed a great big (over 30 foot) camper with it, he claimed it had a factory tow package that included a 2 speed rear end.  I’ve never been able to find anything online to verify the 2 speed axle part but it absolutely pulled that camper from Nevada to New England and then out to California. 

He told me a story about leaving Henderson NV heading east.  There’s a decent grade for several miles heading towards Boulder City and the Arizona line (I’ve driven the newer interstate version myself).   He was chugging up the hill at 55 or so and was gaining on a Suburban towing a similar sized trailer so it was either slow down or go left and pass.  He put his foot into it pulled out and walked by the Suburban with its 454 wailing away in 2nd gear just to hold 40 mph.  Fast forward 20 minutes or so, he had pulled into a gas station to check everything after the first few miles and the Suburban guy pulls in behind.  The guy walks up and says “OK, what in God’s name is under the hood of that Caddy”. If any of you GM / Cadillac nerds know anything about the “tow package”, I’d love to hear it.   There was definitely something unique looking about the rear end when I looked underneath.  

No two speed rear axle.  Some of them in the late 60s had a switch-pitch converter, but not in the 70s.

Tow package wasn't really a thing back then either on Caddys.  Tow packages usually included things like oil coolers and trans coolers which caddy already had standard on most models.  If there was a tow package, they were probably calling it that because they ordered it with 2.73 or 3.08 gears, but they just used a pretty boring 12-bolt 8.875" rear.  They looked a little funny from the side, but just a 12 bolt

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Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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2/26/21 7:55 a.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

My great uncle had one of those in buttercream yellow with cream leather.

Did your great uncle live in Lower Bucks PA around 1990?  

I used to work with an older fellow who bought one of these (or roughly the same era).  He/we jokingly called it "The Banana Boat".  

PA yes, but Blairsville.

11GTCS
11GTCS HalfDork
2/26/21 8:33 p.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
11GTCS said:
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

An older family friend had the 1975 version of that car in that color with the 500 CI engine.  I drove it once and that hood looked 20 feet long from behind the wheel.   They towed a great big (over 30 foot) camper with it, he claimed it had a factory tow package that included a 2 speed rear end.  I’ve never been able to find anything online to verify the 2 speed axle part but it absolutely pulled that camper from Nevada to New England and then out to California. 

He told me a story about leaving Henderson NV heading east.  There’s a decent grade for several miles heading towards Boulder City and the Arizona line (I’ve driven the newer interstate version myself).   He was chugging up the hill at 55 or so and was gaining on a Suburban towing a similar sized trailer so it was either slow down or go left and pass.  He put his foot into it pulled out and walked by the Suburban with its 454 wailing away in 2nd gear just to hold 40 mph.  Fast forward 20 minutes or so, he had pulled into a gas station to check everything after the first few miles and the Suburban guy pulls in behind.  The guy walks up and says “OK, what in God’s name is under the hood of that Caddy”. If any of you GM / Cadillac nerds know anything about the “tow package”, I’d love to hear it.   There was definitely something unique looking about the rear end when I looked underneath.  

No two speed rear axle.  Some of them in the late 60s had a switch-pitch converter, but not in the 70s.

Tow package wasn't really a thing back then either on Caddys.  Tow packages usually included things like oil coolers and trans coolers which caddy already had standard on most models.  If there was a tow package, they were probably calling it that because they ordered it with 2.73 or 3.08 gears, but they just used a pretty boring 12-bolt 8.875" rear.  They looked a little funny from the side, but just a 12 bolt

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Curtis, that’s what I remember seeing under the car and thanks for the update.   I guess it was just brute torque doing the work.  He pulled that trailer all the way across country and back at least twice with that car.  I followed him when he moved it from one park that was seasonal to another where they spent the winter, no issues moving that big trailer down the highway at 65-70.  

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) MegaDork
2/26/21 8:47 p.m.
yupididit said:

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

I want

Never denied that you had good taste.  Well except for that Jag thing.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/26/21 8:54 p.m.

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

dammit.... now I have to go check FB for an XJR.  [sarcasm] Thanks for the reminder [/sarcasm]  wink

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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2/26/21 8:56 p.m.
11GTCS said:
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
11GTCS said:
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

An older family friend had the 1975 version of that car in that color with the 500 CI engine.  I drove it once and that hood looked 20 feet long from behind the wheel.   They towed a great big (over 30 foot) camper with it, he claimed it had a factory tow package that included a 2 speed rear end.  I’ve never been able to find anything online to verify the 2 speed axle part but it absolutely pulled that camper from Nevada to New England and then out to California. 

He told me a story about leaving Henderson NV heading east.  There’s a decent grade for several miles heading towards Boulder City and the Arizona line (I’ve driven the newer interstate version myself).   He was chugging up the hill at 55 or so and was gaining on a Suburban towing a similar sized trailer so it was either slow down or go left and pass.  He put his foot into it pulled out and walked by the Suburban with its 454 wailing away in 2nd gear just to hold 40 mph.  Fast forward 20 minutes or so, he had pulled into a gas station to check everything after the first few miles and the Suburban guy pulls in behind.  The guy walks up and says “OK, what in God’s name is under the hood of that Caddy”. If any of you GM / Cadillac nerds know anything about the “tow package”, I’d love to hear it.   There was definitely something unique looking about the rear end when I looked underneath.  

No two speed rear axle.  Some of them in the late 60s had a switch-pitch converter, but not in the 70s.

Tow package wasn't really a thing back then either on Caddys.  Tow packages usually included things like oil coolers and trans coolers which caddy already had standard on most models.  If there was a tow package, they were probably calling it that because they ordered it with 2.73 or 3.08 gears, but they just used a pretty boring 12-bolt 8.875" rear.  They looked a little funny from the side, but just a 12 bolt

Large Image

Curtis, that’s what I remember seeing under the car and thanks for the update.   I guess it was just brute torque doing the work.  He pulled that trailer all the way across country and back at least twice with that car.  I followed him when he moved it from one park that was seasonal to another where they spent the winter, no issues moving that big trailer down the highway at 65-70.  

Yup.  Cubes are king.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
2/28/21 6:54 a.m.

So.  I drove the '77 DeVille, and apart from a rust hole in the driver's floor and a small oil leak it seemed to be in pretty good shape- drove well, shifted well, ran quietly, etc.  Asking price is $3100.  I'm away next weekend and can't take out cash today anyway, I'm thinking maybe I can let it roll around in my head a bit and make him an offer in a week when I get back?

irish44j (Forum Supporter)
irish44j (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/28/21 7:42 a.m.
yupididit said:
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) said:

Perhaps maybe one of these....1976 Coupe DeVille D'elegance....yes, it's the wrong decade ,but  still.

Scott's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

 

Oh wow! 

This thread makes me want to get a 60/70's 472/500 Cadi!

I just saw this morning a guy driving one of these painted white with giant steer Boss Hogg bull horns mounted on the grille. So epic.

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ SuperDork
2/28/21 9:01 a.m.

What I remember most about the 472/500 is that a few guys figured out in the early '90's that they'd  swap into a G-body without too much trouble.  Here in the land of salt where cars rust but engines usually do no not, you could build a solid 13 second Cutlass, Regal, GP, Monte Carlo for a few hundred bucks (assuming you had the G already)...and a lot of work.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/28/21 9:22 a.m.

In reply to A 401 CJ :

There was a guy somewhere in the midwest who did a hairy Cad 500 in a Regal and adapted an S10/Bravada AWD transfer case in it.  Sick ride.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) UberDork
2/28/21 10:42 a.m.

I missed a "built" 500 caddy that someone's wife wanted off their porch for $100. Terrible pic on Craigslist and the guy wasn't the best communicator  but from what I was able to deduce it was de smogged, rebuilt for higher compression and a higher rpm power band. He claimed 500hp 800tq or something like it.

 

I missed it by about 5 min. Wonder how that would have worked in the challenge Caprice.......

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