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http://jalopnik.com/5673683/the-best-ten-minutes-of-racing-youll-see-all-week
Direct link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FpEp3janpEU#!
Aussie V8s are in fact super awesome. I have no idea why America is not nuts for this AND rally.
That clip is awesome-filled awesome with an awesome coating and an awesome on the top.
We DID get two Aussie V-8 cars with the Pontiac GTO and G8, but the GTO didn't get any sales because it wasn't some bloated caricature of its old self (see: Challenger, Camaro) and the G8 wasn't advertised nearly enough.
Now only the cops get some down-under V-8 goodness with the Caprice, and those aren't fully federalized, so off to the crusher they go once they're retired.
And the real treat comes on SpeedTV this weekend when both races (from Sat/Sun) are broadcast.
Show-time usually occurs on Sunday afternoons, but check your channel listings.
Thanks for the link, Eddie!
and those aren't fully federalized, so off to the crusher they go once they're retired.
huh? really?
Yes that is some goodness in racing.
RexSeven wrote: That clip is awesome-filled awesome with an awesome coating and an awesome on the top. We DID get two Aussie V-8 cars with the Pontiac GTO and G8, but the GTO didn't get any sales because it wasn't some bloated caricature of its old self (see: Challenger, Camaro) and the G8 wasn't advertised nearly enough.
^ THIS!!
However, GTOs are EVERYWHERE now. When I had mine, I would see one every other month.
These days, I see one every other day . . . berkeley I miss that car . . .
I needs me an excursion to the Land Down Under to watch one or two races in person . . . and go to a Supercar Track Day Experience . . .
Vigo wrote:and those aren't fully federalized, so off to the crusher they go once they're retired.huh? really?
Most likely not. The Caprice is based on the long-wheel-base Holden Statesman, which was not federalized (unlike the Monaro/GTO or Commodore/G8). If the Caprice were fully federalized, then it would be available to the general public as well as LEOs/gov't organizations. That's a very expensive proposition for GM, who was burned twice with the GTO and G8. And since the Caprice is not federalized, I can only envision two scenarios when they are retired: They get crushed, or Motorex-type companies pop up to bring the Caprices up to their model year's safety and emissions standards. Who's going to want to pay a $10,000-$30,000 mark-up on used-up police cars?
That was one hell of an exciting race to watch. 
But who chose 102 laps over a nice even 100?!
Nitroracer wrote: That was one hell of an exciting race to watch.
The races are measured by distance.
Happens all the time when track lengths don't end in .0's or .5's.
I would LOVE to see these cars come to the states and push the current generation of NASCAR cars out, just drop a different/American market car body on them (aka something that doesn't look like a melting hotwheels car like the current breed of stock car bodies do, but looks like the actual road car that's had a bit of aero added to it in the form of an air dam and side skirts and a diffuser and canards and such. Ford would use the Fusion or maybe the new Taurus, GM could use one of their sedans, Dodge could use either the Charger or the Avenger), or even use some of the newer muscle car bodies that are starting to trickle out (so far only the Camaro and Mustang, but I'm guessing the Challenger isn't that far behind) but keep the basic formula unchanged from the AUV8 cars otherwise, except of course for making them LHD
dsycks wrote: I have no idea why America is not nuts for this AND rally.
Because neither are spectator friendly, and they haven't figured out a way to put it in an arena, and charge $45/seat for it.
Missing something here...
Cars are cool and racing tight. However, the race is run in a one lane wide track with no passing opportunities.
I only made it up to the minute mark.
Kinda like basketball where ya give them a 100 point start and play for ten seconds.
We need the Aussie anouncers to come along with the program.
The NASCAR annoucers are part of the NASCAR problem IMO.
Didn't someone post recently that the Aussie Supercars are spec cars, just like Nascar? It's just a different spec.
I thought he was a scrutineer down under....
anyone notice the SLEW of American drivers (that compete in America) that scrolled at the bottom of the screen? Saw alot of IRL and ALMS drivers that were in that race...
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: anyone notice the SLEW of American drivers (that compete in America) that scrolled at the bottom of the screen? Saw alot of IRL and ALMS drivers that were in that race...
and retired F1 drivers, and touringcar drivers from around the world, and LMS drivers, and JGTC drivers.
this event was a heck of a draw for international talent, similar to the 24 hours of Daytona for some reason.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: anyone notice the SLEW of American drivers (that compete in America) that scrolled at the bottom of the screen? Saw alot of IRL and ALMS drivers that were in that race...
They were invited/flown in by the race promoter in a one-off promotion.
In reply to alfadriver:
Yea . . . They have a TON of control items on the cars.
But if NASCAR did more road racing like this I would tune in every race day.
Zomby woof wrote:dsycks wrote: I have no idea why America is not nuts for this AND rally.Because neither are spectator friendly, and they haven't figured out a way to put it in an arena, and charge $45/seat for it.
bing bing bing! we have a winner!
fastEddie wrote: 1. Awesome V8 "production-based" cars 2. Road course 3. Balls-to-the-wall but gentlemanly racing (second place car could have easily punted the first place car a la Tony Stewart/Dale Sr/Jr, etc.) 4. Watch an Ex F1 Champion make an Arse of himself. Win Win Win http://jalopnik.com/5673683/the-best-ten-minutes-of-racing-youll-see-all-week Direct link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FpEp3janpEU#!
Added #4 for you. ;)
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unfortunately, it is right that the event we just watched is not spectator friendly. Sorry, but a street roadcourse like that does not allow you to watch all the action by simply turning your head.
On that respect, you would think tennis would be more popular....
I would love to see those kinds of races on city streets. Imagine the racing in LA, Philly, NYC, Miami, Chicago, or houston?
simple solution to that, run the infield road courses of more ovals. to my knowledge, every roval utilizes the existing pit lane from the oval, the only difference is where they put the pit exit, and in the case of the Indy GP course, if it really bothered the drivers, just run the course clockwise so you aren't spitting 3000+ pound stock cars on cold tires that just pitted into the braking zone of T1 and so they can use a similar setup to the ones they run at the rest of the rovals. and of course, run a street circuit, maybe Belle Isle or St. Petersburg or Long Beach? you would still need ovals of varying sizes to ensure that there wasn't too big of a backlash, but significantly cut the number of ovals and in the case of rovals, run one race on the road course and one on the oval, and on ovals with no infield road course, only run one track of its kind (short track, mile, 1.5 mile, superspeedway, tri-oval, triangle, you get the picture) and only run that track once per season to make sure that the driver who can adapt the best to different conditions comes out on top by the time the points are tallied up at the end of the season. it would be a massive culture shock to the rednecks of the country, but variety is good and at least this way they would be able to make the claim that their drivers were the best in the world and have it actually mean something
Slyp_Dawg wrote: ....it would be a massive culture shock to the rednecks of the country, but variety is good and at least this way they would be able to make the claim that their drivers were the best in the world and have it actually mean something
Forced culture shock may not be a very effective method for marketing your product - regardless of your customers' neck-color.
Nascar would likely introduce more variety IF that's what the fan base indicated.
Rovals might work, but only if enough traditional Nascar fans embrace the idea. Road racing fans may show up, but in what numbers?
Anyway, it seems your premise presumes Nascar would be the sanctioning body to implement your vision. Except, Nascar and its' fans don't seem to express any interest in wholesale embracement of road racing.
I wondered about Nascar using the infield and "road racing" too, until I realized that would take away all the infield RV parking, which means it will NEVER happen. Sad, but true.
big money on the infield RV parking
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