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clownkiller
clownkiller HalfDork
10/17/13 11:16 p.m.

In reply to jdbuilder: Might just do that..

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
10/18/13 10:00 a.m.
poopshovel wrote: So at this point, I'll go ahead and say E46 M3 vs. CTS-V vs. 540i vs. M5. GO!
  1. CTS-V
  2. 540i6
  3. M5
  4. M3

Reasoning - CTS-V is an M5 without the BMW BullE36 M3 tax. Cooling systems don't blow up, pixels don't randomly die, etc. BMW's, for all of the good they have in the driving department, are kind of pieces of E36 M3. That's why the GM beats all the bimmers for me.

Now, if you're going to go with a BMW, then I still rank them by the amount of bullE36 M3 you deal with. The 540i6 is most of the good of the M5 without most of the bullE36 M3. Yeah, your power steering is still going to leak, and yeah, it's still got a water cooled alternator, but at least there is no Vanos to E36 M3 on you nor ITB bullE36 M3 to deal with when you have to replace the VC gaskets.

M5 beats M3 because you said you were tired of toys, you wanted a Q-ship.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/18/13 10:05 a.m.

^That gen V8 didn't have VANOS?

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
10/18/13 12:01 p.m.

M5 did, 540 did not.

MINIzguy
MINIzguy New Reader
10/18/13 12:06 p.m.

Both the S62 in the M5 and M62 in the 540i had VANOS. The S62 had dual VANOS. The early M62's (I think the '97s) had single VANOS and the later ones had dual VANOS.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
10/18/13 12:23 p.m.

OK, well then for whatever reason it's a maintenance issue on the M5 but not the 540 then.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 1:53 p.m.

I know it seems totally opposite of what I said I'm looking for, but someone mentioned Clubman S, and it's sticking in my brain. Obviously not a 13 second car, but it's close to being a high 14 car, and can haul E36 M3 and family...and unlike the Caddy, I actually love the looks. Hrmmmm.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/18/13 1:54 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: I know it seems totally opposite of what I said I'm looking for, but someone mentioned Clubman S, and it's sticking in my brain. Obviously not a 13 second car, but it's close to being a high 14 car, and can haul E36 M3 and family...and unlike the Caddy, I actually love the looks. Hrmmmm.

Have you considered a V6 manual Camry?

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
10/18/13 2:03 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
poopshovel wrote: I know it seems totally opposite of what I said I'm looking for, but someone mentioned Clubman S, and it's sticking in my brain. Obviously not a 13 second car, but it's close to being a high 14 car, and can haul E36 M3 and family...and unlike the Caddy, I actually love the looks. Hrmmmm.
Have you considered a V6 manual Camry?

Or perhaps a Ram 1500?

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/18/13 2:11 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: I know it seems totally opposite of what I said I'm looking for, but someone mentioned Clubman S, and it's sticking in my brain. Obviously not a 13 second car, but it's close to being a high 14 car, and can haul E36 M3 and family...and unlike the Caddy, I actually love the looks. Hrmmmm.

Have you considered putting your man pants back on?

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 2:27 p.m.

I...hate...you guys...so...much.

jdbuilder
jdbuilder Reader
10/18/13 5:10 p.m.

Ctsv to M5 to Clubman S? This went south real quick

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 5:55 p.m.

I'm back to normal now. I still like little corner carvers. I keep forgetting I already own one. This is an excercise in "big berkeleying hammer." Apologies. Carry on.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 5:57 p.m.

In the interest of getting back on track, narrowing down again, CTS-V vs. E46 M3. What say yee?

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
10/18/13 6:03 p.m.

CTS-V

Sonic
Sonic SuperDork
10/18/13 6:07 p.m.

In reply to poopshovel:

Do you need 4 doors?

The CTS would be the hammer, the M3 is a little too precise to be a hammer, it's a big freaking sword.

nicksta43
nicksta43 SuperDork
10/18/13 6:07 p.m.

My money would be spent on a C- A -D -I- L- L- A-C beotch!

turboswede
turboswede UltimaDork
10/18/13 6:12 p.m.

C to the T to the S to the V bitch.

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
10/18/13 6:15 p.m.
Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
10/18/13 6:17 p.m.
nicksta43
nicksta43 SuperDork
10/18/13 6:19 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Winner winner: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4037282625.html

Fo troof O_O

clownkiller
clownkiller HalfDork
10/18/13 6:41 p.m.
Sonic wrote: In reply to poopshovel: Do you need 4 doors? The CTS would be the hammer, the M3 is a little too precise to be a hammer, it's a big freaking sword.

CTSv comes in coupe too!

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 6:59 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Winner winner: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4037282625.html

I KNOW, I KNOW! Might take a poke at that one this weekend.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/18/13 7:02 p.m.

The one bit I'm trying to get over: aesthitically: Caddy = boring. M3 = secks on wheels. I can't help it. I'm right-brained to a fault.

jstein77
jstein77 SuperDork
10/18/13 7:19 p.m.

I've always liked the looks of the wagon better than the coupe.

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