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93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 12:58 p.m.

As title asks... what is this? And how horrible of an idea is it to try to pick it up?

I can't seem to find much if any info on it, other than it MAY have 315hp.

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1045104195.html

"I have a 1986 Mercedes Benz 420 AMG. This car needs a lot of work but does come with a lot of replacement parts. Acording to the Mercedes dealer, there were only 300 total built and 50 to be sent to the states. I have only seen one other like it since i have owned the car. I DOES RUN but for sure needs a fuel pump and filter. All of the original body parts are there as well as the FACTORY BODY KIT AND RIMS!!!! I do have replacement doors and front fenders as well as a new ALUMINUM trunk lid and bumpers. The seats in the car are fairly new and as I said before IT NEEDS WORK TO BE DRIVEN!!! Also, this car is in need of a paint job. The pictures dont show it very well, but the paint is chipping/peeling off in a lot of places. THE PRICE IS FIRM as the dealership told me that in the condition that it is in I could sell in upwards of $6,000.00. I am not out to screw anybody or I would be selling it for ALOT more. I can e-mail more pics upon request. Please feel free to call me if you have any questions 317-640-6065 Richard or e-mail can work too "

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
2/23/09 1:02 p.m.

for the $1K he's asking? may not be a bad DD after the Fuel Pump

patgizz
patgizz Dork
2/23/09 1:04 p.m.

for 1K if it were closer i'd be on my way to get it.

looks cool in the crappy pics.

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
2/23/09 1:05 p.m.

Hmmm....do a google for "AMG Hammer". I don't know about this one (420), or if the ad is correct. Doesn't look like it.

I guess the best bet would be to see what engine is in it and take it from there.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 1:07 p.m.
Grtechguy wrote: for the $1K he's asking? may not be a bad DD after the Fuel Pump

That's what i'm thinking.... i'm just trying to figure out exactly what it is... he hasn't responded to my email yet, and i can't call him for a few hours.

It's a ballertastic car for a DD, sure... i'm just not sure i need a ridiculously thirsty rocket. 315hp in one of these would be sufficiently insane.

On the other hand, it looks cool enough that i'm having a hard time justifying NOT wanting to get it.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 1:14 p.m.

Looks like it MAY be a cosworth...

But the rear wing doesn't look quite right, and the cosworth didn't have the headlight wipers i don't think.

We'll see if he replies... this is driving me nuts.

yuejals
yuejals New Reader
2/23/09 1:22 p.m.

It looks like a M-B 190E 2.6-16 to me...

mtn
mtn Dork
2/23/09 1:25 p.m.

I thought the only Cosworth-Mercedes collaboration was the 190e?

Why is it that there are more cool/interesting Mercedes in Indianapolis than anywhere else? Anybody else notice this, or just me?

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
2/23/09 1:26 p.m.

It's not the Cosworth model. Those only came in the 190 body style. This is the larger S Class body.

EvanB
EvanB Reader
2/23/09 1:30 p.m.

Nope, not just you. A couple years ago I was going to go with a friend to pick up a Mercedes 6.9 in Indianapolis before the dealer raised the price significantly after agreeing to sell it for $800.

Edit: I was replying to MTN, Joe snuck in there.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 1:34 p.m.
mtn wrote: I thought the only Cosworth-Mercedes collaboration was the 190e? Why is it that there are more cool/interesting Mercedes in Indianapolis than anywhere else? Anybody else notice this, or just me?

Definitely not you. After further investigation, this looks like it is indeed a Hammer.

And i know where there is ANOTHER Hammer about 2 miles from my house.

There's also been 3 Cosworth E190s through the local car forums in the last two years.

Hopefully this guy bites... i can't pass this up.

Challenge Hammer?

Wally
Wally SuperDork
2/23/09 1:34 p.m.

I didn't know there were so many coke dealers in Indianapolis. I'm holding out for one with Testorosa flares myself.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/23/09 1:35 p.m.
yuejals wrote: It looks like a M-B 190E 2.6-16 to me...

No, thats definitely an S Class

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 1:40 p.m.
Wally wrote: I didn't know there were so many coke dealers in Indianapolis. I'm holding out for one with Testorosa flares myself.

I saw a Blazer with the Testarossa body kit in the local Pic-A-Part a few months ago.... interested?

And i just got a reply to my email:

I will have my husband email you when he gets off of work, He should be able to answer all of your questions. He will be home at 4:30. There is not alot of info avaialble on this car since it was such a limited production. I know it has a huge motor in it though. It is supposed to be very fast.
sachilles
sachilles Reader
2/23/09 1:49 p.m.

Interested to here how this works out for you. I can't tell if it's glare or what. Is the passenger side smooshed...and that is why he has spare doors?

benzbaron
benzbaron Reader
2/23/09 1:53 p.m.

You need a vin number to tell what it is and AMG might not have any information for you. I don't know if it is real, but would doubt it. The stock engine out of the 560 w126 put out around 300HP so 315 wouldn't be a stretch. But it says it is a 420 so it isn't the 32V Hammer, AMG seems to be such a failure compared to BMWs M group. I'd guess it is a pimp my benz with the ugliest paint job and wheels with an AMG emblem on the back. Real AMGs are a tough find and I think I've seen 3 real old AMG modified mercedes.

The cosworth were for the 190E model, I think they modified either the 2.3l or 2.5l 4cyl. I saw someone selling a used cosworth head for 2000$ to give you a price reference. Just like the 500E the cosworth are still worth money.

If this car was real, buy it and part it out. A real verifiable AMG engine with cams will be worth $$$$, but not unless you know what has been modified. AMG didn't keep great records so you'd likely be on your own regarding provenance.

dyintorace
dyintorace HalfDork
2/23/09 1:57 p.m.
93celicaGT2 wrote: After further investigation, this looks like it is indeed a Hammer.

While it may be an AMG, it's definitely not a "Hammer". That model was only available in the E-class body style (W124). The car in the CL pictures is an S-class.

benzbaron
benzbaron Reader
2/23/09 2:01 p.m.

One of the real AMGs I saw had an outlandish paintjob, a bright magenta something like the car pictured, but the chrome was colored the same too. Hell if I know what the thing is, but they made enough of them that the junkyard is your friend.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
2/23/09 2:36 p.m.

$1000? Go! Get it! You could probably sell the wheels for that even if the rest of the car is trash. And if it's a big motor, then it's total Challenge fodder.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 2:40 p.m.
Keith wrote: $1000? Go! Get it! You could probably sell the wheels for that even if the rest of the car is trash. And if it's a big motor, then it's total Challenge fodder.

In a sick way i'm hoping it's gross enough to not feel bad about challenging it and that i can talk him down.

This thing would be hilarious with some Cragar style wheels, flat black paint job, and a ridiculously huge nitrous shot.

Counting down the time til 4:30 when the guy gets home...

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
2/23/09 2:46 p.m.

Challenge? Locost Donor you freakcycle.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 2:48 p.m.
John Brown wrote: Challenge? Locost Donor you freakcycle.

I think you just broke the internet, there....

Locost with this motor, a powerglide, and a Ford 9" rear end? Seems to defeat the purpose, but it's SOOOOO right.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Reader
2/23/09 2:58 p.m.
John Brown wrote: Challenge? Locost Donor you freakcycle.

Why not both?

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago HalfDork
2/23/09 3:29 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote:
John Brown wrote: Challenge? Locost Donor you freakcycle.
Why not both?

can't have locosts in the challenge

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/23/09 3:46 p.m.
thatsnowinnebago wrote:
slantvaliant wrote:
John Brown wrote: Challenge? Locost Donor you freakcycle.
Why not both?
can't have locosts in the challenge

Challenge it, then locost!

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