oh, should also be relatively available and cheap, come with some form of RWD manual trans, and lightness counts too.
Just a thought game, please post engine/length (and specify what that dimmension is measuring, ie transmission surface to crank pulley bolt, etc)
In know not inline, but I'm intrigued with the short staggered VR-6 rwd conversions out there.
In reply to Gasoline:
That is neat. While I loved the vr6 in our old Jetta, I'm quite jaded by any vw. Ever.
In reply to Trackmouse:
The VW drivetrains aren't nearly as bad as the rest of the car, in my experience. VR6 is a great suggestion in a lot of ways, sounds sexy, and is pretty stout with the right areas addressed.
The smallest and lightest would be an old bike engine.
A quick guess, just based on displacement: It might be the Nissan L20A.
A VR6 with a non-VW ECU is definitely an interesting idea... I think the crappy part will be finding the RWD transmission - early 924, IIRC?
In reply to GameboyRMH:
What old bikes are inline 6es? I know a lot of inline 4s, but 6?
Ian F wrote: A VR6 with a non-VW ECU is definitely an interesting idea... I think the crappy part will be finding the RWD transmission - early 924, IIRC?
I agree, very interesting. Sounds like it is really a 15deg v6, I always thought the VR6 was a 60 deg V6 or something. the more you know...
In reply to rcutclif:
IIRC, 15 deg
Other than the transmission being a problem, the first thing that came to mind was the CBX1000.
rcutclif wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: What old bikes are inline 6es? I know a lot of inline 4s, but 6?
Honda CBX:
VR6 is a narrow angle V-6 with a single cylinder head. Wikipedia has a good write up about them.
You mean like this maybe.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5699856
rcutclif wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: What old bikes are inline 6es? I know a lot of inline 4s, but 6?
Honda CBX, or a Benelli Sei. Neat engines but not readily available.
edit: also the Kawasaki KZ1300, which was water cooled.
Kawasaki KZ 1300
In reply to NOHOME:
The rest of that samba thread is the funnies.
Other than cheater options and motorcycle engines (again cheater options as no way to mount a car transmission onto), you are probably looking at some of the Brit sixes. I know that the ones used in some of those older British convertibles are much smaller than their German and Japanese relatives.
I know that you can fit a Terraplane six in a Model A without too much trouble. It's a flathead though. I no longer have this cylinder head, but you might be able to use the box for reference.
rcutclif wrote: In reply to NOHOME: The rest of that samba thread is the funnies.
OK, now I have to read it. I just cribbed the pic for the OP.
Daewoo XK6 perhaps? http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=1408
They say it's 642mm long. For reference, The Internet tells me that the Ecotec 2.2 inline-four is 665mm long. I'm having a hard time finding info on the VR6.
Trackmouse wrote: In reply to Gasoline: That is neat. While I loved the vr6 in our old Jetta, I'm quite jaded by any vw. Ever.
I'm jaded too. Get one out of an Audi. Its like having to consider a wife's pretty sister.
Didn't AMC shorten the six someway when they put it in the CJ ?
Don't know how short that made it.
Are looking at MX-5 Miata swap? I have thought about whether VR6 would fit in mine. I have not garb a tape measure yet. 
The small Triumph 6 (Vitesse, GT6, TR6) are fairly short, inexpensive, widely available from 1.6L-2.5L, RWD.
I had a VR6 in my Corrado and loved that engine. It both had torque and liked to rev. And the sound...somewhat Italian-like!
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