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MrChaos
MrChaos Reader
10/11/15 7:18 p.m.

it will be used for 70% off road 30% winter beater. Needs: Smaller than a Bronco/Blazer, decent aftermarket. wants 2 solid axles.

Is the answer still samurai?

Billy_Bottle_Caps
Billy_Bottle_Caps Dork
10/11/15 7:23 p.m.

Yes

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
10/11/15 7:27 p.m.

Yes.

Maybe a Dodge Raider if you can find one.

Salt roads and either one of them will end up being a pile of iron oxide in short order.

rcutclif
rcutclif Dork
10/11/15 7:57 p.m.

Uhhh, xj.

You will actually be able to find one of those in nice condition for 3k. That's a stretch in some parts of the country with a Sammy.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture PowerDork
10/11/15 8:04 p.m.

There's always the Isuzu Trooper II as well, but they suffer the same issue as the Samurai and Raider; robust in every way except tinworm resistance.

XJ is the easy button, even if it isn't unique.

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
10/11/15 8:14 p.m.

XJ if solid axle is a must. I would say a Discovery but they are far from reliable. How about an Xterra?

I have a Sami and it is rusty as all get out but it is still a great little truck.

dropstep
dropstep HalfDork
10/11/15 8:16 p.m.

Toyota pick up...

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
10/11/15 8:18 p.m.

The fact that they don't show the damage leads me to question how bad it is...

http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/5245979894.html

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
10/11/15 8:38 p.m.
pimpm3 wrote: The fact that they don't show the damage leads me to question how bad it is...

Me, too. I also don't think they came in a 4 cylinder model, did they?

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
10/11/15 8:43 p.m.

If solid axle is NOT a must, and for up to a level 3 trail, a Tracker/Vitara would be great.

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
10/11/15 8:44 p.m.

It says 6-cylinder in the narrative.

untchabl
untchabl New Reader
10/11/15 8:46 p.m.

Another vote for XJ. Solid axles, bulletproof 4.0 engine and either the aw4 automatic or ax15 manual transmission are both durable options.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
10/11/15 8:54 p.m.

I just checked, and yes, they do make a solid axle conversion for the Vitara.

http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/5232085909.html

patgizz
patgizz PowerDork
10/11/15 10:26 p.m.

2dr boxy blazers are pretty darn small.

MrChaos
MrChaos Reader
10/11/15 10:31 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: I just checked, and yes, they do make a solid axle conversion for the Vitara. http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/5232085909.html

not for that model and the sas kit is $2700 without the axles, I've looked also pass drop narrow front axles are a pain to find since you have a 74-79 Wagoneer narrow track d44, 86 and older yota mini truck axles, or FJ80 axles 97 or older.(all of which you have to fight ifs toyota owners for.)

Also fist gen 89-98 tracker is the backup safe choice as of this moment followed by a Ford Bronco.

There are a few samurai's in my price range atm and xj's are really hit or miss. 2 door or nothing and has to have the 8.25 rear.

I am looking at the Asheville, Knoxville, TN and Upstate, SC craigslists. The Knoxville and upstate craigslists seem to be more reasonable in price than the Asheville one.

And Toyman01: what is with people in SC painting Samurai's like the General Lee? I swear I have seen at least 5 in the past few months.

This purchase is a little ways away as I am waiting on my roommate to move out to free up a parking space.

driver109x
driver109x HalfDork
10/11/15 10:31 p.m.

Early 1st gen 4Runner '84-'85

MrChaos
MrChaos Reader
10/11/15 10:45 p.m.
driver109x wrote: Early 1st gen 4Runner '84-'85

cheapest around is $7200

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
10/12/15 1:50 a.m.

what about an Isuzu amigo?

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
10/12/15 8:28 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: what about an Isuzu amigo?

I was just going to say that. I am picking one up later in the week myself and the second Gen ones are pretty sharp.

Storz
Storz Dork
10/12/15 9:14 a.m.

Isuzu is the best deal in cheap capable trucks

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
10/12/15 9:37 a.m.

If I did not need to tow, I would have an amigo over my Disco. I always liked those little 4x4s

MrChaos
MrChaos Reader
10/12/15 9:39 a.m.

Honestly at this point I am looking for 2 solid axles or a bolt in sas and the only options are Samurai, Tracker, or XJ atm. With a full size bronco an option but i prefer a smaller suv.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/12/15 10:22 a.m.

Why not a run-of-the-mill Jeep Wrangler? XJ? YJ? (...or whatever the designations are...) Especially for "70% off-road/30% on". All of the other suggestions were designed more for inverse use.

I'm confused...

bmw88rider
bmw88rider Dork
10/12/15 11:27 a.m.

I think the $3K budget is the reason for no wrangler suggestions. They just aren't that cheap without being trashed. In fact at least here it's hard to find anything 4WD for that price point.

MrChaos
MrChaos Reader
10/12/15 12:49 p.m.
bmw88rider wrote: I think the $3K budget is the reason for no wrangler suggestions. They just aren't that cheap without being trashed. In fact at least here it's hard to find anything 4WD for that price point.

this the sub $4k ones are nothing but rust and a salvage title or have been beat to death.

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