Evanuel9 said:In reply to SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) :
Yep, the 335i was twin turbo - neat but german complexity. THe 330i, IIRC, is just a 3 liter N54
The 330 is still an N52, just a different intake and tune - only difference. A lot of people with the 328's (like mine) are doing the 330 intake and a bimmerlabs tune to basically make a 330...
In reply to Snrub :
Considered it, threw it off the list when i compiled my top three, but now that the top three have been vetoed they might be in the running again. Heard Speed3's can have some issues and prefer the 2 to the base 3. 8th gen si vs speed 3?
What about a 240sx. Threw it off the list very early because they were expensive and thrashed. Now that my budget is a bit higher would I be able to find one that isn't a thrashed piece of absolute E36 M3 in my budget? Strikes me as a 90s equivalent to an frs - 2+2 miata like the frs is a 2+2 miata
Evanuel9 said:In reply to chknhwk :
Thank you - I think tire choice will probably be important - -I'm a big believer in proper tires.
I do want to learn - I just want to have tons of fun doing it
Tires and brakes are the two biggest 'mods' IMO. When you think about it and really get down to it what are the two most important things that equate to actual car control? Four small contact patches (i.e. tires) and brakes. That's it. NEVER overlook the importance of what these two basic items are doing.
Evanuel9 said:In reply to John Welsh :
b-b-b-but the owner says it runs and drives!!! Lol
honestly, never cared for the 5 series. Luxo barges, even with power, never interested me. love the spec though and the v8 is great!
I do say this with a grain of salt and small amount of anecdotal evidence but don't overlook larger cars. I only say this because I have an affinity for smaller sedans but after owning and driving an '11 Jaguar XF a larger car can very easily hide it's weight with a capable chassis. I think BMW could do a good job of 'hiding' this weight. Granted consumables could conceivably be higher due to the weight but with the admitted lack of disposable income you'd most likely be relegated to autox vs track events. I'm my experience (and anybody feel free to chime in here), autox events are NOWHERE near the level of wear you'll get with an HPDE at a track like VIR or Mid-Ohio. I've heard you talk about 'consumables' several times in this thread but honestly if you're not going several high speed events a year I didn't think the consumables are going to be the issue I think you think they will be. Find something reliable and capable and enjoy.
Evanuel9 said:What about a 240sx. Threw it off the list very early because they were expensive and thrashed. Now that my budget is a bit higher would I be able to find one that isn't a thrashed piece of absolute E36 M3 in my budget? Strikes me as a 90s equivalent to an frs - 2+2 miata like the frs is a 2+2 miata
Most of the cheap ones have been used for drifting, and drifters do unspeakable things to cars. :)
"modern" ABS doesn't even have to be all that recent, the mk60 in my E46 M3 does all of the things I mentioned and it's 20 years old.
My friend, you are going around and around and around in circles. You've been given our opinion on what the right answer is. Trying to look at it from 100 different angles isn't going to change the picture. You just need to pick what you want and move forward. We all agree the cars you want most aren't a good idea, but the decision is yours to make. Not saying this in any anger, just trying to help you stop the madness that must be going on in your head.
You do not want a car from the 90s. It is at least a quarter century old now.
The 330 was the low end E90. People who wanted speed bought a 335 or an M3.In America, the 330i was only avalible in 2006 and was the flagship for the first year of the E90. The turbo came in 2007 and had way more power, and way more upkeep and maintenance costs. Identical interior features, and BMW decontented in the LCI
In reply to bbbbRASS :
Yeah I am not, under any circumstances, considering a 335i.
By the way, did you get my email?
In reply to SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) :
"My friend, you are going around and around and around in circles. You've been given our opinion on what the right answer is. Trying to look at it from 100 different angles isn't going to change the picture. You just need to pick what you want and move forward. We all agree the cars you want most aren't a good idea, but the decision is yours to make. Not saying this in any anger, just trying to help you stop the madness that must be going on in your head.
You do not want a car from the 90s. It is at least a quarter century old now."
Took the thoughts right of my head yet again!
In reply to CyberEric :
Y'all are no fun 😆 - madness seems a bit harsh.
In all seriousness bbbbRASS's 330 is looking like the ticket. That's what I'm actively pursuing at the moment
bobzilla said:I'd recommend a 14-17veloster turbo if we were going off the money and funness factors.
Not going to lie but ive been searching for one as our next Champ Car. They are starting to really drop in price. Just wondering about keeping it together over a long period of time at race speeds.
In reply to bobzilla :
That was just a tune problem, no? I'm surprised at how cheap Forte koups (same car) with the 1.6T are getting. I'm seeing them at a third of what I got for payout on mine only a couple years ago
Peabody said:In reply to bobzilla :
That was just a tune problem, no? I'm surprised at how cheap Forte koups (same car) with the 1.6T are getting. I'm seeing them at a third of what I got for payout on mine only a couple years ago
It's promising to me for a donor car. If I can get a running smacked up VT or Forte SX (Koup or hatch) for challenge money I'll make my own i20N, but as a sexier Kia.
Evanuel9 said:In reply to bobzilla :
Might give it a drive, it's quirky and I kind of forgot it exists.
Veloster Turbo, 2nd gen (2014-2018)Kia Forte Koup SX, Forte5 SX and some Elantra Sport version all had the 1.6T and manual trans option. 3k lbs, fast enough to get into trouble, easy to repair, cheap parts, consumables are not crazy expensive etc. When you get bored, turn the boost up and add an LSD and they get really fun really fast.
No, no, no, no. Don't. The Veloster is a good car, I like it. That's not my point. It's just going to add to the circle jerk and confusion. You've got a good list. Pick one and go.
In reply to SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) :
I already have - i emailed bbbbRASS about his e90. If that doesnt go anywhere ill have to reassess.
Hey Evanuel,
I say this with grace, zero judgment whatsoever, and only the accumulated "wisdom" I have from being in your position only a few years ago. I have a few thoughts, some in general and some regarding the BRZ.
Regarding the BRZ paranoia...
I will end with this: the unsexy answer is buy a Honda Fit. They're fun, high up your rankings, reliable as anything you could hope to drive, and they haul tires like no one's business.
But the answer I will give and the one I'd listen actually listen to? Find a solid BRZ/FRS. Get a PPI. Make a fun trip out of it. You'll make a great memory and will have a fantastic car in your life. Good luck sir (sorry for the novel, I just had a lot of thoughts).
Evanuel9 said:In reply to SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) :
I already have - i emailed bbbbRASS about his e90. If that doesnt go anywhere ill have to reassess.
That car is pretty nice. All new suspension (although there is a slight clunk in the front that we need to solve.
Faster than my 3.9v6 swapped rx8.
Smells faintly of crayons (as all of them do of this generation).
Generally, a reliable car that I borrow often and enjoy greatly!
You shouldn't buy it. Then I don't get to enjoy it.
Not that the waters aren't muddy enough already, but if you're in between an E90/E92 328i/330i and a 1st gen BRZ, the correct answer is an E82 128i. It's a slightly smaller/lighter, shorter wheelbase version of the E90/92- same powertrain.
With that said, the FiST is a barrel of monkeys fun to drive around, and honestly, so is the Fit. Of everything mentioned in this thread, the Fit will likely be the easiest on your wallet.
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