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Woody
Woody MegaDork
5/30/17 9:42 a.m.

Not mine, etc...

Comes with a bunch of storage compartments and several hundred feet of scrap aluminum.

Bonus Points: Air Horn.

1959 American LaFrance Fire Truck Ladder - $2900 (Shrewsbury)

Robbie
Robbie UberDork
5/30/17 10:07 a.m.

holy crap. me. I do.

hobiercr
hobiercr Dork
5/30/17 10:55 a.m.

Me too!

Robbie
Robbie UberDork
5/30/17 10:58 a.m.

You could probably use the ladders as the ramps...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
5/30/17 11:16 a.m.

I thought this thread was going to be about Gordon Shumway.

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
5/30/17 11:37 a.m.

You ever driven one of those?

You will regulate it to Cars and Coffee real quick.

They suck.

Great idea, great application, horrible in the final result.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
5/30/17 11:39 a.m.

In reply to FlightService:

Well... Woody is a fireman, so he may have.

But otherwise, I tend to agree - most fire engines are designed for short range trips.

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
5/30/17 11:43 a.m.

In reply to Ian F:

My VFD had one of that model ALFs. We hated using the thing.

I feel sorry for Pro Firefighters that had to deal with them.

I am sure the new ones are better but those suck.

Robbie
Robbie UberDork
5/30/17 12:11 p.m.

What's the issue? Slow? Poor final drive? Loud? Rough?

Woody
Woody MegaDork
5/30/17 12:13 p.m.

Even brand new ladder trucks can be painfully loud and uncomfortable inside.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy UltraDork
5/30/17 12:50 p.m.

I kinda like my getting pushed around in my '48, it steers amazingly easy for as big as it is. It's a single layer of steel skin, though, and the cab back is an afterthought, so I can't imagine how loud it's going to be at speed under its own power.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
5/30/17 2:40 p.m.

It's ALF. Remember ALF, Bart? He's back. In ramp truck form.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
5/30/17 2:53 p.m.

Do these have the completely insane two stroke diesels? I can't decide if I want one of those or not.

Cousin_Eddie
Cousin_Eddie Reader
5/30/17 2:55 p.m.

Not for me thank you.

As a 16 year driver in the fire service, I'd rather have a punch in the nose than have to drive an old ladder truck any distance. Those things were crude and rough. And, they were usually powered by 2 stroke Detroits. My ears are ringing just thinking about it.

kazoospec
kazoospec SuperDork
5/30/17 6:55 p.m.

I can't even imagine how much metal you'd have to cut away to build the ramp section. At least 62 Harbor Freight angle grinders worth.

PMRacing
PMRacing SuperDork
5/30/17 7:16 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce:

I think you've found your next project!

oldopelguy
oldopelguy UltraDork
5/30/17 8:44 p.m.

Mine had a 472(?) flathead v12 gas engine, but most were converted to diesels when they had troubles.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
5/31/17 9:55 a.m.

Rather than just saying they suck to drive, many of us would like to know a little more detail. Difficult to steer, noisy, slow, uncomfortable, or what?

(When I was in college I had a job driving a beat up and worn out 1965 GMC cabover truck; anything over a ten mile trip in that thing was a lot of work, but I still thought it was fun. However, 40 years later I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much as I did back then.)

fanfoy
fanfoy Dork
5/31/17 9:58 a.m.
stuart in mn wrote: Rather than just saying they suck to drive, many of us would like to know a little more detail. Difficult to steer, noisy, slow, uncomfortable, or what?

^^^^^This.

If it's just a noise thing, apply a bit of Dynamat to the cab and it should be tolerable no?

2-stroke diesel temperemental?

Need more details!

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
5/31/17 10:03 a.m.

So a house size RX7? That doesn't sound too bad.

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
5/31/17 10:06 a.m.

Let's see here.

Loud, rough, uncomfortable, slow acceleration past 30 mph, touchy brakes, engine issues (two stroke diesel, flat head or continental), the steering was "interesting".

If you could take the front cab off and put it on a more suitable chassis it would be great, because they look awesome.

You can't Dynamat a hole in the back, no design for NVH. The wind noise alone would make you deaf.

java230
java230 SuperDork
5/31/17 10:23 a.m.

Im guessing that partly why the new ones all run intercom systems?

Is it bad I have been wanting something with a two stroke diesel???

hobiercr
hobiercr Dork
5/31/17 10:37 a.m.

The one at the end of this video looks pretty comfy.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/EwTDvO4WO5o

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
5/31/17 10:48 a.m.
java230 wrote: Is it bad I have been wanting something with a two stroke diesel???

yes

java230
java230 SuperDork
5/31/17 10:58 a.m.

In reply to FlightService:

but they are sooo cool!

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