Cactus wrote:petegossett wrote: In reply to Gearheadotaku: Well the Riv probably weighed almost as much as a 1-ton dually...The 1 ton dually is probably faster in a straight line. While towing.
But no matter how much stuff you bolt onto it, no matter how much torques you get from a Banks kit, no matter how much dozer you bro, it will never be as cool as that stock Riv.
Woody wrote: From that point on, I was smitten with the early Rivieras. They must have been the E36 M3 back in the day.
They absolutely were. Even the Europeans were blown away by the Riviera. Jaguar founder and designer Sir William Lyons said that Mitchell had done "a very wonderful job," and Sergio Pininfarina declared it "one of the most beautiful American cars ever built; it has marked a very impressive return to simplicity of American car design." At its debut at the Paris Auto Show, famed industrial designer Raymond Loewy said the Riviera was the handsomest American production car—apart from his own Studebaker Avanti, that was, the Riviera's only real competition for 1963. (I'd argue that Loewy's '53 Studebaker coupe was better than the Avanti)
Google reverse image search got me here:
http://www.mercedesheritage.com/2011/09/ferraris-in-monterey/
"Arriving back at the Del Monte Lodge in Pebble Beach after a race day at Laguna Seca, Bev Spencer pauses for a quick photo circa fall 1963. Enzo Ferrari was feuding with the Italian Racing Authorities concerning homologating the 250LM and began entering his cars in Europe under the North American Racing Team (NART) banner and finished in NART's white/blue paint livery. Spencer followed suit with his first GTO. Number nine would become the Spencer racing number until the money ran out. On concours Sunday, the Pebble Beach entries file onto the lawn about 20 feet beyond the nose of the Riviera."
petegossett wrote: In reply to Gearheadotaku: Well the Riv probably weighed almost as much as a 1-ton dually...
Look up the weights of common 60s cars sometime, and compare to modern compact and midsize cars. It's eye opening.
Knurled wrote:petegossett wrote: In reply to Gearheadotaku: Well the Riv probably weighed almost as much as a 1-ton dually...Look up the weights of common 60s cars sometime, and compare to modern compact and midsize cars. It's eye opening.
Confirmed. My '99 Cavalier crossed the scrapyard scales at 3400lbs. That's '60s GM intermediate weight with a whole lot less room, horsepower and coolness.
T.J. wrote: He could just be a guy who just happened to be standing by a Ferrari on a trailer hooked up to a Buick.
Why would you screw up a wet dream??
carguy123 wrote: I had dreams of buying it and putting a 340 Plymouth engine in it.
And you would have been the most hated man in the world.
When I was a youngster, my brother got us a job passing out fliers for the local Buick dealership. We had to wait quite a while for something, and we climbed all over the early Riviera they had in the showroom. They finally locked it.
Looks like Bev was a Buick & Ferrari dealer:
http://www.sportscardigest.com/the-motorbinder-photo-book-project/
His trailer has an interesting structure too.
In reply to NickD:
Filled with concrete? 3,400 is more like the GVWR on that car.
GM Intermediate - My '71 GTO & '04 G35 weighted about the same @ ~3,450 Lbs. Sorry, wrong GTO for this thread...
In reply to TenToeTurbo:
Thanks! I tried Google Reverse Image but that didn't come up for me. But further Googling gets us here:
My grandmother bought a new...'65? Riv. She loved that car, but apparently they had a knack for continuing to pump fuel into the carb after the car was shut off. Her Riv burnt to the ground one afternoon. She never got another one...
Her car was gold too.
Knurled wrote:petegossett wrote: In reply to Gearheadotaku: Well the Riv probably weighed almost as much as a 1-ton dually...Look up the weights of common 60s cars sometime, and compare to modern compact and midsize cars. It's eye opening.
The 250 GTO weighed about 1920 lbs. The same as my old '76 Corolla. But with a 300hp V-12 and a Cd of well under .30!!!
I would want a verifiable source for that Cd.
NickD wrote:Knurled wrote:Confirmed. My '99 Cavalier crossed the scrapyard scales at 3400lbs. That's '60s GM intermediate weight with a whole lot less room, horsepower and coolness.petegossett wrote: In reply to Gearheadotaku: Well the Riv probably weighed almost as much as a 1-ton dually...Look up the weights of common 60s cars sometime, and compare to modern compact and midsize cars. It's eye opening.
Didn't most intermediates come with crappy low compression 1-barrel sixes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfItWwi2V8
If that man is made King, then these guys have to be in his court.
Woman: I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.
Man: (mad) You're fooling yourself! We're living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
spitfirebill wrote:carguy123 wrote: I had dreams of buying it and putting a 340 Plymouth engine in it.And you would have been the most hated man in the world.
TODAY I would have been but the local Plymouth dealer replaced Ferrari engines with 440's several times that year. That's where I got the idea.
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