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iceracer
iceracer UberDork
12/31/13 10:54 a.m.

Is the Honda system direct or indirect ? Seems like a combination.

Mmadness
Mmadness Reader
12/31/13 11:21 a.m.
Autolex wrote:
Mmadness wrote: Yes, I can confirm this based on my mom's Honda Odyssey. To get around this you can pull the fuse for the VSA (check your owner's manual). But SCCA Solo rules prohibit this.
Doesn't work anymore (at least not on my 2012 Civic)

Try pulling the TPMS fuse and the VSA fuse at the same time. If this doesn't work, I have found that doing a (reverse) J-turn will usually send it into error mode, temporarily disabling it until you restart the car.

Autolex
Autolex Dork
12/31/13 11:28 a.m.

is that the fuse (24) labelled ABS/VSA? if so; shouldn't be too hard to put a SPST switch in line. (obviously would have to be labelled the "giggle switch")

what does fuse 40 do? (labelled TPMS)

Mmadness
Mmadness Reader
12/31/13 6:48 p.m.

In most cars, the TPMS fuse will turn off the TPMS system and an amber light reading "TPMS" will illuminate on your dash. If you pull fuse 24 it looks like you may disable the anti-lock brakes as well; if it works of course.

Autolex
Autolex Dork
1/2/14 10:08 a.m.

well the stability control/traction control is two parted; the wheel spin is controlled by throttle cut (probably not defeatable without TPMS working) but skid is controlled by abs (not defeatable without TPMS working or ABS fuse pulled)...

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
1/3/14 11:27 a.m.

ill give 40 and 24 a try tomorrow while the wife is still out of town. I got back home from on a redeye from phoenix and came strait to work so nothing is happening tonight.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
1/3/14 1:17 p.m.

Re-reading what I wrote. Durrrrrrrrr

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
1/4/14 10:16 p.m.

did not get a chance to try this today. It was hurricanating here today had to drive forester just to get to the store because roads were flooding.

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
1/5/14 10:16 a.m.

My friend has a Fit EV and ran into the same problem He said he pulled the fuse.

Mmadness
Mmadness Reader
1/5/14 11:16 a.m.

On some cars, you can unplug a wheel speed sensor if you really get desperate. However, this also disables the ABS.

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
1/5/14 5:40 p.m.

I found that I can turn off the TC without TPMS (winter tires/wheels). The TC is so unintrusive that I never bother. Of course this is not much help to Honda owners.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
1/6/14 9:45 a.m.
iceracer wrote: I found that I can turn off the TC without TPMS (winter tires/wheels). The TC is so unintrusive that I never bother. Of course this is not much help to Honda owners.

Yes this is a Honda 9th Gen Civic specific thing. I realize most cars have the capability of doing such even the 8th gen Civic. Honda seems to have sent TC into a infinite loop of redundancy.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
1/6/14 12:52 p.m.

I know you can get programmable (usually called "cloneable") sensors to spoof the ID of your original TPMS sensors and put them in your second set of wheels...but that would cost a few hundred.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
1/6/14 1:43 p.m.

Yarrrrr. I wonder if the Hondata K-Sport thing has the ability to "delete" the TPMS system from the ECU or if the TPMS system even relays back to it. That would at least be a worthy investment for future modifications or could sell for a decent price down the road.

Autolex
Autolex Dork
1/13/14 12:17 p.m.
DirtyBird222 wrote: Yarrrrr. I wonder if the Hondata K-Sport thing has the ability to "delete" the TPMS system from the ECU or if the TPMS system even relays back to it. That would at least be a worthy investment for future modifications or could sell for a decent price down the road.

http://www.hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=16033

kellogs
kellogs
2/28/19 2:26 p.m.

Hello,

While the TPMS system is certainly useful, it can be quite a chore on some cars to maintain, or downright expensive. I am the maker of some TPMS simulators devices, currently they are good for European Suzuki cars only, and I was looking into expanding them. Not sure whether the Si can be a suitable candidate for them. Does anyone feel any need for them at around $60 (50 euros) ? I'll be needing a volunteer if so, more details in private.

Advantages:
- no need to program it to the car's ECU (for those non-automatic learning type of sensors).
- corded / replaceable batteries - you do not buy new sensors every 5 - 7 years, especially nice when there are more than one set of wheels in use with your vehicle.
- you will not get these autumn / spring warnings caused by temperature fluctuations.
- no such issues caused by some aftermarket sensors that would not fit into the rims.
- pass the periodic vehicle inspection if your state enforces functional TPMS.
- reversible: the next owner will be able to remove the device and install pressure sensors.

Disadvantages:
- obviously no TPMS functionality.
- if you are involved in a tyre related car accident and your insurance company detects a spoofed TPMS, no more monetary claims you can make; of course, if he can detect that.

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