stroker
stroker PowerDork
8/22/23 11:42 a.m.
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter)
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter) Dork
8/22/23 11:48 a.m.

It's a small block Chevrolet. Driver side disptick puts it prior to 1981 . Crank pulley is for long water pump setup and the AC bracket on the driver side manifold is for the A6 type of air compressor. These things clue towards mid 70s era, in light of the style of exhaust manifold shown. The exhaust manifolds of that style tended to shrink or warp inward, making it difficult to remove and replace after they got some age under their belt. Once you removed the bolts, the manifold would spring inward and you'd never get the bolts back on their holes. Lisle and other companies sold screw wedge tools for this very scenario, to spread them outward far enough to line the holes up again. GM made a running change with the introduction of similar manifolds except they had a bar connecting all three ears into one unit to counteract the shrink issue. 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/22/23 12:11 p.m.

+1 to Cousin_Eddie's response.  in addition, it appears to be painted blue, not orange, so that puts it as 1977 or later.

harmonic balancer looks huge.  if it's 8" diameter, that means it's a 400. I had to google what years the 400 SBC was available.  Model years 1970 thru 1980.

GeddesB
GeddesB Reader
8/22/23 4:18 p.m.

If you are going to snag that engine do your best to get the flywheel too.  The SBC 400 is externally balanced.  So its an odd ball flywheel sort of

 

Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter)
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8/22/23 4:39 p.m.

All of that era trucks and van engines had 8 inch balancers, even the lowly 305s. The 6 3/4" units were most often used in car applications. 

It's super easy to differentiate the 400 small block from it's lesser brethren by counting freeze plugs. The 400 had three freeze plugs on each side of the block, or two freeze plugs and an obvious blank where the third would live. Meanwhile, all of the 9 other different displacements only have two on each side of the block.

Furthermore, the 400 had a different balancer and flexplate due to their balance than the smaller SBC varieties, but that's getting pretty far off into the weeds. 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
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8/22/23 4:47 p.m.

In reply to Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter) :

the weeds is where us GRM folks flourish. :-)

so, even though the ad now says SOLD, i'd also like to offer that the dipstick length says not van.

stroker
stroker PowerDork
9/3/23 7:50 p.m.

A straight six Pontiac?

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
9/3/23 8:01 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

Sprint 6. Was really only seen in the Tempest, LeMans, and Firebirds- DeLorean made it when he took a trip to Europe and realized how powerful overhead cams could be with how much faster they allowed engines to turn. I think their production stopped in 1969-1970.

There's an alternate history where GM didn't give up on the engine, or sold it to AMC.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/3/23 8:57 p.m.

I'd like an OHC Pontiac engine, just for the conversation it would raise.  

I had acquired a 53 Buick years ago, with a straight 8.  I sold the car to a guy on the agreement that he would give me the engine back, since he wanted to hot rod the car.  It went to the recyclers...

I guess a collection of weird engines would take a lot less room than complete weird cars.

stroker
stroker PowerDork
9/20/23 3:37 p.m.
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter)
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter) Dork
9/20/23 3:39 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

That's all LS engines and parts.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/20/23 3:41 p.m.

Those are all GM truck LS motors. The fan is a 99-03 GMT800 clutch fan. 04 they went to e-fans

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon SuperDork
9/20/23 3:42 p.m.

Those are far to close to me, they look like Gen3 (LR4,LM7,LQ4 etc.) truck engines though I have no clue whats going on with the oil pan on the upside down engine.

rustyvw
rustyvw Dork
9/20/23 8:55 p.m.

In reply to RacetruckRon :

Turbo oil return?

stroker
stroker PowerDork
9/23/23 3:06 p.m.

Okay, this might be a legitimate opportunity for someone.   I have no idea what they are.  It looks to me like someone spent some money on these engines and the owner wants them GONE.  The problem is they're in BFE Tennessee.

buzzboy
buzzboy SuperDork
9/23/23 3:11 p.m.

You can probably catch the last train there to pick them up...

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/23/23 3:44 p.m.

Having the Tqv still on it and the valve train a bit off leads me to think that one is most likely got issues. 

Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter)
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9/23/23 3:57 p.m.
dean1484 said:

Having the Tqv still on it and the valve train a bit off leads me to think that one is most likely got issues. 

Yep.

Like it's likely locked up and they couldn't turn it over to unbolt the torque converter so they pulled it that way.

The complete one is an aluminum headed small block Chevy with mud bogger, tractor puller, through the hood zoomie headers. Prolly wasn't just driven to church by a little ol lady or anything. The other is also a small block Chevy, with what appears to be iron heads standing on the ground next to it. I guarantee, there is heartache in those for anyone who buys them with any kind of hopes beyond them being core engines. 

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
9/23/23 9:29 p.m.
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter) said:
dean1484 said:

Having the Tqv still on it and the valve train a bit off leads me to think that one is most likely got issues. 

Yep.

Like it's likely locked up and they couldn't turn it over to unbolt the torque converter so they pulled it that way.

The complete one is an aluminum headed small block Chevy with mud bogger, tractor puller, through the hood zoomie headers. Prolly wasn't just driven to church by a little ol lady or anything. The other is also a small block Chevy, with what appears to be iron heads standing on the ground next to it. I guarantee, there is heartache in those for anyone who buys them with any kind of hopes beyond them being core engines. 

I've seen people be lazy af and take the trans off but the tc is still attached. Of course that ruins the trans pump.

Clarksville is not bfe. It's 30 min north of Nashville on I24. You know there is a rather large army base there too right?

stroker
stroker PowerDork
9/23/24 2:31 p.m.

I confess to being completely bumfuzzled with this one.  Honda SOHC?

ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter)
ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
9/23/24 10:59 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

I can't ID it for certain, but it bears enough similarities to an early CB750 that is believable that it is some period Honda CB motorcycle engine. Four carbs, air-cooling fins, could be a three quarter Midget?

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