alleykat
alleykat New Reader
6/14/10 3:02 p.m.

Just WTF? Words fail me. Z3-Miata-Stang

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
6/14/10 3:03 p.m.

is it weird to be baffled, yet aroused at the same time?

Raze
Raze HalfDork
6/14/10 3:06 p.m.

Um, WOW!

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Dork
6/14/10 3:13 p.m.

I like. It's everything wrong with the Miata, Z3, and Mustang... fixed.

Carson
Carson Dork
6/14/10 3:15 p.m.

1994 SVO? Does he mean '84 SVO? or '94 SVT?

mtn
mtn SuperDork
6/14/10 3:23 p.m.

I'm confused. I want it.

klipless
klipless Reader
6/14/10 3:40 p.m.

All hail the Ziatatang!

Do want, but not for 20k.

kreb
kreb Dork
6/14/10 3:50 p.m.

It looks like he's done a nice job of answering a question that nobody but he asked.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/14/10 4:06 p.m.

Oh boy. Do not know if want.

Slightly related... yesterday somewhere in Ohio, i saw a silver Z3 with a hardtop. It was SEXY.

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky Reader
6/14/10 4:45 p.m.

So that's how you stand out at the local auto-x, win in a Miata that isn't a Miata...

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
6/14/10 5:11 p.m.

I'd go $17,000, but $20k is just too much.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer Dork
6/14/10 5:26 p.m.

Amazingly it doesn't look that bad. Still doesn't mean I want it though.

M2Pilot
M2Pilot Reader
6/14/10 6:39 p.m.

Only a short distance from here. It may be a good thing that I'm finally getting a parking pad poured & my driveway re-paved next week.

Raze
Raze HalfDork
6/14/10 6:41 p.m.
M2Pilot wrote: Only a short distance from here. It may be a good thing that I'm finally getting a parking pad poured & my driveway re-paved next week.

cancel the order, procure this car, park on front lawn, sit in folding chair drinking a miller light, enjoy

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 New Reader
6/14/10 7:47 p.m.

I sold a nice M Coupe for $17k. For the same money I'd rather have that back along with my 90 Miata.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
6/14/10 8:01 p.m.
Carson wrote: 1994 SVO? Does he mean '84 SVO? or '94 SVT?

Odd mixup, for sure. I wonder if he's stuck in the dark ages and calls SVT "SVO". Maybe he carries a "Mastercharge", too.

20k seems a bit insane. Sure, a lot of work went into it, but expecting to recoup is is crazy. $10k seems way more realistic.

I mean, none of the three cars it's composed of are worth $20k on their own...

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
6/14/10 10:03 p.m.

So, it's a Monster Miata with a body kit. Whoopdedoo. I'd maybe consider it if it had an LSx with a T-56 behind it, and it then be worth 20K as a used vehicle. As it is, I can find a '90 miata for less than 2K (especially if it needs drivetrain work), a 5.0 Mustang and Tbird rear end for less than 5K. That leaves 13K for a Monster kit and BMW body kit. I am guessing that he paid a shop LOTS of money to install the kit, and that's where he's getting his 20K figure from.

That being said, I've considered doing an LSx conversion in combination with an Italia kit.

3Door4G
3Door4G Reader
6/14/10 10:28 p.m.

It's pretty well put together.

20k is an insane price though. Good lord.

I wouldn't pay more than 10 if there wasn't some kind of warranty. Who know what could go wrong. That's like asking for the problems of three used cars all rolled into one.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/15/10 9:01 a.m.
3Door4G wrote: It's pretty well put together. 20k is an insane price though. Good lord. I wouldn't pay more than 10 if there wasn't some kind of warranty. Who know what could go wrong. That's like asking for the problems of three used cars all rolled into one.

It's really only two cars...

The BMW part is just a body kit and nothing else.

Sofa King
Sofa King Reader
6/15/10 9:02 a.m.

I have never understood the Z3 body kit for the Miata. It doesn't make the Mazda a BMW and the Z3 isn't that expensive that if you really wanted one you couldn't find a good used one. And it doesn't improve the Miata.

That being said, I have about $20K into a Monster Miata, and I didn't even buy the kit. If you had told me up front that I was going to spend that much, I wouldn't have built it, but it works well and I love it. But,I wouldn't expect to be able to get $20K back out of it. Eventhough I can easily show where the money was spent on the parts.

Wally
Wally SuperDork
6/15/10 9:07 a.m.

I suppose it's better than a Miata drive train in a Z3 made to look like a Mustang

paulmpetrun
paulmpetrun New Reader
6/15/10 9:57 a.m.
Sofa King wrote: That being said, I have about $20K into a Monster Miata, and I didn't even buy the kit.

Sofa King, is that in the otter you got from me? If so HOLLLYYYYY Shnikies! Hey you gonna bring that thing down to Mid-Ohio August 14/15. I'll be racing another miata and would love to see my old car. Plus I want to pick your brain about the v8 swap. Once I blow up the race engine I was thinking of going v8, but maybe not if its gonna cost that much.

As for the Ziatang, I never understood rebodying a decent car just to look like another abundantly available decent car! Seems like a waist of time and money to me. To each there own I guess

Sofa King
Sofa King Reader
6/15/10 11:44 a.m.

Yeah Paul, I am almost embarassed to say that it is! Complete with "Otter" license plates!

It could have been done much cheaper, but once the donor parts turned out to be crap, I decided not to waste good fabrication on bad parts. I didn't have the energy at the time to hunt down another donor and try to stay on Challenge budget. That energy is back and I have another V8 Miata in the works, and so far it looks like I will be under budget.

Matt B
Matt B Reader
6/15/10 11:46 a.m.
Sofa King wrote: I have never understood the Z3 body kit for the Miata. It doesn't make the Mazda a BMW and the Z3 isn't that expensive that if you really wanted one you couldn't find a good used one. And it doesn't improve the Miata.

This. Is exactly my reaction. It's like taking a 240sx and trying to make it look like an FC RX7, or whatever.

I'm sure it's fun to drive though . . .

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